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Originally Posted by fryke  Those didn't fight for "atheism" or anything, or with atheism as a rule or reason. There are, however, many religious wars. |
Hang on... A couple of things there... One: yes, some of these regimes made atheism a point of the new system, persecuting (including murder of) those who were believers. That, to me, is inescapable. (Also, there are branches of this that we can go into, such as how atheist fundamentalists tend to argue that atheism makes them more reasonable and removes conflict.) Two: I dislike it when atheists remark about "religious wars," refusing to accept that an act could be perpetrated in the name of theism, but not actually stemming from the beliefs, but, on the other hand, refuse to accept the reverse (i.e. when accusations are made about atrocities in the name of atheism). "You can't have it both ways," as they say.
I continue to take the line that we are all human and have the same flaws! Those who are religious are not superior to atheists, and atheists are not superior to believers. I think a group who disagrees with either part of that sentence is "part of the problem," shall we say.
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Originally Posted by fryke What are the bigger threats than religious threats? |
Take your pick... A coming energy crisis. Environmental issues. The divided between rich and poor (including on a world wide basis). The drive of materialism. More "routine" clashes between nations on the world stage, particularly when other nations are used as pawns. And so on. All brought about by man.
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Originally Posted by fryke I'd say we'd be pretty good right now if terrorism as well as the war on terrorism weren't and no God or god would have to have a puppet attack other countries/religions etc. |
It was a bit hard to follow that sentence, but, from my interpretation of what you meant, I really, really have to disagree.