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It sounds as if QuarkXPress and Adobe Illustrator do their "saves" different than other programs.
I believe this is what's happening "behind the scenes" when a "Save" is performed:
1) Write data out to a temporary file.
2) Ensure temporary file is consistent and non-corrupt.
3) Delete original file.
4) Rename and move the temporary file to the location of the original file.
If that's truly what's going on, then the mod date and creation date would always be the same after a "Save" operation.
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