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Old July 11th, 2003, 04:57 AM
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Re: When will Apple get any respect?

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Originally posted by Go3iverson
Really, when will it happen?

The questions are always there. The answers seem to change depending on what Apple comes up with.

Innovation. Apple has innovated the entire PC market. Market share? What can less than 5% do to over 95%? A lot, evidently. The Cube? How many case manufacturers now make cube cases now? FireWire, USB keyboards/mice, huge LCD displays, DVD burners...it goes on and on. Heck, look at the Sony Vaio RS320 desktop...Quicksilver anyone?

Motorola drops the ball on the CPUs and we hear about it every day since. The G4 is this and that and the other thing. Fine. Bring in the PPC 970/G5 from IBM. A beast. Think about it. Not too many people go the 167MHz bus G4 chips. Most of those PowerMacs were at 133Mhz on the bus. That's one line. More likely, people had 100Mhz bused computers, or even iBooks that had 66MHz buses for the majority of their existence. So, we'll say 100Mhz....fast forward to 1000Mhz in a one day turn around. Couple that with a 64-bit chip, PCI-X, DDR, AGP 8x, 802.11g, etc and you have an amazing turn around and some seriously powerful hardware.

Apple lied. No, its not that fast. Oh, it is? Well, the video card is horrible! Where are the video games? Where's the software?

I'm sorry, but my computers are not for games. I own a few and I own a PC that I built, that never gets turned on. It's powerful and it has XP Pro on it. It collects dust. Nothing wrong with it at all, I just prefer my Macs. Games don't touch my machines. That's why I own gaming consoles. I spend all day at a computer, why would I want to spend what little leisure time I get in front of it too playing games? I want out of that environment when I can!

And since we're talking about serious computing, why is it that the first knock at Apple is game support?

This post is not to knock PCs or anything of that nature. If you got that idea, I'm sorry, it wasn't intended. Each machine has its strengths and weaknesses. Just what exactly does Apple have to pull out to get respect?

OS 9 is too unstable? Ok. Here's UNIX with the slickest GUI around and an insane level of ease to use.

It's too carooney and childish...not serious enough.

Windows XP? Purple and green reminds me of the Joker and it's got more colors in it that OS X. Now I hear that Longhorn has application animations? They also have this great new technology where the AGP card takes control of the GUI and desktop and such...wish Mac had that...(Quartz Extreme).

We got that back in 2002. So when Longhorn comes out in 2005 or early 2006, they'll have 4 year old Mac OS X components in it.

Again, I'm sure Longhorn will be a quality Microsoft product, but why is it that when Apple does it, it's garbage, but when the PC world follows 6 months to 4 years later, it's revolutionary?

Ok, that's enough for now.
i think your giving apple too much credit on the "Apple has innovated the entire PC market"... only a handful of pc manufactures make cube case. USB was created by intel and others i believe to compete with fw. dont know much about lcd's. dvd burners? i dont think apple builds them...

Most people who bash pc's and macs dont even know what they are talking about most of the time.
Its usually those who are fair minded who know. I must admit im completelty a pc user right now. check my sig for the specs. during the whole G5 benchmark tests there were alot of pc-users on pc majority forums who defended the mac. its really only a handful who need to bash either platform. for what i dont really know.
also i think the argument people make that pcs are only good for games is about as old as macs have no software...

Onto WindowsXP. Ya its not the best OS it has a crap load of security holes that MS does patch its still no excuse considering their massive R&D. I can get through XP fine it does everything i need done. is it sometimes more work then usual of course but what can you do?

For a time many people bashed mac hardware because their was a gap with the G3 and G4 compared to intel and amd. so we had faster procs with a mid-level OS. while you guys had a very superior OS and really ahead of its time. now though the gap is next to none. So now you have both hardware and software. If MS can get things right with Longhorn hopefully pc users will also be on the same level with OS and hardware. What does piss me off is microsoft has the capability to make a great OS but with a market share of 90%+ they could careless. which sux for us...

Lastly you might be thinking what im doing here. Well im mystified by apples innovation. OSX, iapps, the new G5. I also really love the ibook style its awesome...
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