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Old December 13th, 2001, 10:38 PM
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Talking Windows XP SUCKS compared to OS X

God damn, a friend installed Windows XP and deleted it cuz he can't connect to Windows 2000 machines. XP supports networking with all Windows EXCEPT 2000.

He got so pissed when he saw my Mac OS X connect to a Windows 2000 that he erased XP and just installed Windows 2000.

I played around with his XP and it SUCKS. What a lame OS. It's just Windows 2000 with different graphics. There's no real reason to upgrade to it.

Mac OS X is pushing apple into the future. Windows XP is just adding pretty graphics and annoying stuffed animals for assistants. No REAL changes. 2000 can do everything XP can do.

Windows just sucks. I can't even win the solitaire game on Windows! Then I downloaded Mac Solitaire and I won. God damn Windows sucks anus!!

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Old December 13th, 2001, 10:57 PM
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Old December 13th, 2001, 10:59 PM
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From what I've read over at Slashdot (http://www.slashdot.org/) I would argue that XP can do LESS than Windows 2000. It doesn't support Sun's Java unless you download it and install it. M$ saw fit to load XP with all sorts of Digital Rights Managment bull$#!t. It won't play MP3's right (limits their sound quality) and it does some funky things when trying to burn MP3's to CD. Hell, you can't RIP songs from a CD and encode them in MP3 format without going through all sorts of bull$#!t (you have to use M$'s proprietary format, and AGAIN, sound quality is limited by Big Brother). You have to RE-REGISTER it with Bill if you modify, remove, replace, or add ANY 6 hardware components. I can confidently say I WILL NEVER PURCHASE A PC WITH A M$ OS. If I ever did purchase one, it would certainly have some flavor of Linux on it.
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Old December 13th, 2001, 11:08 PM
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I installed it and played with it just a bit.. it looks like a fisher price OS

I will be plaing with it some more this weekend and I will make a posting about that on sunday. It has some features which I definatelly like (like how they inlcuded greek in there from the get go, not like OS X which I am STILL waiting for greek )


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Old December 13th, 2001, 11:23 PM
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Are we really going to rip XP and say it sucks? It seems like some of the people who are bashing it haven't really spent enough time on it to judge it.

Want to know how XP is different from Win2K? Try going here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...itprotop10.asp

You say that XP doesn't connect to win2k machines. I say you're wrong. It does, you just didn't get it to work. Is that the OS's fault. Yeah, partly.

Anyway, let's not stress what our OS does best at the risk of forgetting what XP does better (net meeting, for example, is great. Also, all the browsers seem to be slower on OSX). If we do, MS will continue to improve and we'll be stuck talking about the advantages we used to have.
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From what I've read over at Slashdot (http://www.slashdot.org/) I would argue that XP can do LESS than Windows 2000. It doesn't support Sun's Java unless you download it and install it. M$ saw fit to load XP with all sorts of Digital Rights Managment bull$#!t. It won't play MP3's right (limits their sound quality) and it does some funky things when trying to burn MP3's to CD. Hell, you can't RIP songs from a CD and encode them in MP3 format without going through all sorts of bull$#!t (you have to use M$'s proprietary format, and AGAIN, sound quality is limited by Big Brother). You have to RE-REGISTER it with Bill if you modify, remove, replace, or add ANY 6 hardware components. I can confidently say I WILL NEVER PURCHASE A PC WITH A M$ OS. If I ever did purchase one, it would certainly have some flavor of Linux on it.
1) If you bought a PC with an 'M$' OS, it wouldn't come with Linux, you would have to install it. The only company I am aware of that bundles Linux with any of their machines is IBM, which makes fairly decent business-oriented x86 machines to begin with though, and makes the best G3 chips on the market right now.

2) WTF is up with MS limiting sound quality for digital music playback/rip/encoding? Also, why not just install something like WinAmp and a 3rd Party rip/encode solution to get around that? Even if I have to use an MS OS, I don't have to use the pathetic software they bundle with it. (Even if I don't have a choice of installing it) I use Opera and a bunch of freeware to get my PC work done when I need to.

Although, overall... I agree that WinXP is not the way to go, and I really pity my friends who are currenty rather hyped up about it because they are getting it for 15$ (full copy). I just comment: You are getting what you pay for... and at that price, it isn't much (employee discount).
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Krevinek:

Check out http://www.elinux.com/ I think they sell PC's with Linux on them. If they don't do it now, I know they used to.
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Re: A trolling I will go...

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1) If you bought a PC with an 'M$' OS, it wouldn't come with Linux, you would have to install it. The only company I am aware of that bundles Linux with any of their machines is IBM, which makes fairly decent business-oriented x86 machines to begin with though, and makes the best G3 chips on the market right now.
Dell now ships with Linux. There are more. But Linux? Check out the BSD's. FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Much more secure and well supported. FreeBSD moreso for a desktop. OpenBSD is awesome for a server, but I find a PITA otherwise.

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2) WTF is up with MS limiting sound quality for digital music playback/rip/encoding? Also, why not just install something like WinAmp and a 3rd Party rip/encode solution to get around that? Even if I have to use an MS OS, I don't have to use the pathetic software they bundle with it. (Even if I don't have a choice of installing it) I use Opera and a bunch of freeware to get my PC work done when I need to.
I am not saying anyone is wrong on this, since I don't know about it, but it seems odd to me. I think it would be a HUGE screw-up on their part to do this, but could be.

I have only briefly played with XP, but have run NT and 2000 extensively. Very good OS's. I prefer NT because of the faster shell. MS is going the way of Netscape. More and more bloated every release. Still, there is one thing that REALLY pisses me off that Mac OS is missing that Windows always had. A GLOBAL way to go to the beginning and end of a text line. Home and End. Unix has it too. ^A and ^E. The method in Mac OS (IF the app has it in the first place) varies app to app. I find this EXTREMELY irritating. I beg anyone to correct me if I am wrong.
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