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Old January 5th, 2002, 07:09 PM
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not exactly true

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Originally posted by Hervé Hinnekens
What is a weak point from Apple is that when you have broadband that you can't connect an other computer to it right out the box. I have never seen this argument, a very strong suggestion...
while this doesnt' sound like someone who will be worried about networking a PC to a Mac, out of the box a Mac OS X box can talk to Windows boxen. Also, through software like Connectix DoubleTalk, a Mac can talk to a PC and vice versa.

I think a better argument might be what are the REAL reasons to keep a PC?

File compatibility? Macs have it. Network Compatability? Macs have it. More programs? Macs just don't have all the CRAP software. Macs have EVERY bit of essential software available to them.

There's really just no reason to keep using a windows PC, unless you are a masochist.
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Old January 5th, 2002, 07:23 PM
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Re: not exactly true

ITUNES......ITUNES....ITUNES...
MP3s and music in general is big on the computer......
while PC apps make u pay over $30 4 sum decent software.........
its free

id give more.....but a lot of em have been covered and im rather high

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Macs just don't have all the CRAP software. Macs have EVERY bit of essential software available to them.

There's really just no reason to keep using a windows PC, unless you are a masochist.
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Old January 5th, 2002, 07:24 PM
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not that it really makes any difference, but should say that this friend is a university student. hence having no money of his own right now he must rely upon help from parents. He is very computer knowledgable, so much so that it is difficult for him to understand the more basic features that his dad would find important if you know what i am getting at. At any rate getting a new computer, particularly a mac would help him in school but his dad doesn't get it from the more advanced arguements.

so far i think the suggestions are going great. i agree with here that the networking with pc they already have could be a good point.
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Old January 5th, 2002, 07:25 PM
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a mac will last longer, the slot loading iMacs should be able to run the mac OS for the next 4 years at least (with a RAM upgrade), a 4 year old PC now would struggle to run XP at any speed, the components are much better quality and generally last for years, iMacs look cool (dunno if that would count though) and the OS is simple to use.
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Old January 5th, 2002, 08:17 PM
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How about:
- Resale Value - Compare the price of a 4y.o iMac to a 4yo PC in your classifieds pages. How about 10 years? I found Macs hold their value MUCH better (though, for some reason, nobody really wants to sell them!)
- Stability - Macs are less vulnerable to viruses, and are free from windows-related crash problems like DLL-conflicts, memory leaks and GPFs. The Unix core is well protected and can be set up to keep kiddies out of important files while still allowing them access to their stuff.
- Goodies - iTunes, iMovie and iTools are all fantastic tools for the home user, and turn the Mac into more of an entertainment/communication device.
- Style - Macs are a lot more personable than the biege-box PC, and present a cleaner, neater interface. The result: people actually ENJOY using a Mac.
- Cost of Ownership - PC owners are being forced to 'license' software for certain periods. PC owners are being forced to use proprierty formats, such as WMA and ASF, unless they pay more fees to M$. Win users are NEVER offered free upgrades, unless there is a security hole. And, worst of all, PC users are being 'pushed' into upgrading regularly.
- No Drivers means less time #$%ing around and more time working on what is important to you.
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Compare the price of a 4y.o iMac to a 4yo PC in your classifieds pages.
LOL! I got my Dell back in January 2001 for $3000 total (with 4 years financing costs) and it's worth a little over $400 now (on dell.com's resale value page)...

i could have bought a mac and been much happier, but since I knew of no mac programs that could do what I do, I bought a dell... bad decision on my part...
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blingbling - when you say you knew of no programs that would do what you needed, do you mean there weren't any at the time or that you just didn't do enough research to find the ones there were? i think this issue of having the same or compatably, equivilent programs might be of concern to my friend's father.
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Cool

I think I get the situation now...your friend know a lot, his dad knows nothing but what you'd learn in an A4-office.

Here are a few aruments(yes, you've heard them before, but these are the ones who will work)

1. They last longer, so it's not needed to buy a new comp one year from now
2. They are easier to set up, he'll have more time for studying
3. He won't have to worry about virus, thus giving him a more reliable computer
4. Searching for info is easier on Mac, using Sherlock, beleve me, this IS a convincing argument

Do NOT mention games, iTunes, Ircle or any other non school-related apps. Rather say they are crawling for Windows and having them in the box would cause distraction...
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