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Old January 5th, 2002, 10:47 PM
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i was interested in doing digital video and DVD's in January 01 (and still am). i was well aware of iMovie and had tried it in store, but wanted something more powerful. I hadn't heard of Final Cut Pro and never really looked around on the Apple site (my fault...). When I looked at the Dell website, I saw some of the add-on packages for it, seemed pretty good, and ordered my PC. I didn't get the video add-ons yet, and i'll tell you why... because i'm only 14 and didn't want to spend A HUGE TON of money. The Dell seemed a whole lot better of a deal in my financial situation.

but now that I am better off financially, I will be able to afford a mac and pay off this piece of fertilizer (i'll be nice) of a computer and give it to my little sisters (they don't know the difference... the computer they're on is so slow, they'll take anything)

so sorry this doesn't make a valid reason why to buy a mac... or wait, maybe it does...

if you buy a computer, you'll be screwed over quick. if you buy a mac, you'll be very happy for years to come!
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Old January 5th, 2002, 10:57 PM
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voice, you're almost right. the suggestions you made are some of the right ones and i think the dad profile is about right. but because the family will share it at times (i think, i'm not real sure), some of the other things you said not to mention might be good for his dad to understand that macs can do them. but i agree, his mentioning them as his reasons would be counterproductive. the guy is very smart and making the grades doesn't seem to be his problem. i think the idea that the ease of doing his work would make doing it go quicker and leave him more time for other parts of studies would be a good argument. but how do you convince someone who, from what i gather, hasn't really examined macs since back in the original ppc days? i think his dad still thinks macs are more for artists than for 'real life' work. i do think it might help if i find out just exactly his dad expects a computer to do - like what apps, what connectivity, what functions, etc. my friend was kinda vague on this when we talked. but from what i can tell he is serious about wanting a mac soon if he can just find the right argument to overcome dad's objection. i can empathize with him on this.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hervé Hinnekens
What is a weak point from Apple is that when you have broadband that you can't connect an other computer to it right out the box. I have never seen this argument, a very strong suggestion...
I'm sorry... WHAT?
I got DSL recently, hooked up my G4 and put the supplied IP addresses/server names in the Internet System Preferences/Network panels and was up at 1.2Mbps in less than 5 minutes.

Networking has always been a Mac stronghold. Ever used one PC-Boy?
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Old January 5th, 2002, 11:36 PM
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my practical reasons for converting to Mac

I grew up using IBM-compatible computers. And I admit that the only reason I knew so much about it was because I had to fix problems with it or pay someone else to fix it. Nine years and three computers later, I got fed up,
heard about OS X being Unix and bought a G4 (before OS X came out even).

Here's a couple reasons:

1) Less Maintenance
- reinstalling OS for Windows is laborious and painful, usually taking
me 2+ hours. reinstalling OS for Mac: 20 minutes. of course, this
depends on how many applications & how much data you've to back
up & if you have a CD burner/ZIP drive.
- No IRQ conflicts, driver problems (an often issue with Windows);
literally plug and play. I don't spend time on figuring out if the
computer recognizes my perihperals.
- Less time setting up hardware & software
2) Well designed case
- In my old PC's, I've had problems with diskette drives not working,
PCI cards (sound, video, modem) coming loose and such. Times
where I wanted to upgrade my CD-ROM, add RAM. Times where I
cut my fingers on the sharp sheet metal. Times where taking out a
diskette drive was like a Rubik's cube puzzle. Times where it was a
hassle to put the cover back on. Apple has a nice lever to open and
close the case for **easy** access to the internal components.


I have more reasons but I feel that these reasons are more relevant for a family computer. OS X is UNIX and is super stable. Many Microsoft compatible software is also available in Mac version. Basically, less stress, more productivity, and a computer with personality.
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Here's my reason:
THEY KICK ASS!
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Old January 6th, 2002, 12:08 AM
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Re: my practical reasons for converting to Mac

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Many Microsoft compatible software is also available in Mac version.
and also, microsoft's mac compatible software is better than the windows version!

how weird... the products for their own OS is worse than the ones for the competitor OS... LOL!!!
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Old January 6th, 2002, 01:55 AM
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uh, anim8r - herve's english needs a little work, but i am pretty sure he is saying that apple has been weak in promoting it's instant broadband capabilities and that he thinks this is a strong argument for why a mac is easy to use - a practical reason like what i asked for. if you read enough of herve's posts (and i know you can't miss em) you will see that herve is very pro mac. herve even talks about how great his performa is!!!
but your story interested me too because it sounds like you are saying you connected to dsl without a dsl/cable modem - is that right? i think your point about how easy it is to configure is a good one. which reminds me of one i knew but forgot to tell him - osx has built in firewall!! his dad would never be able to configure it but he would be able to no problem i am sure - so this is another security feature that would make a family feel safer!!
so far these are great but i am sure we are still overthinking some. try to think very basic, like when you first got your mac. what made it easy to learn and use? I know for me one thing was not having to worry i would break it if i did something wrong. osx, with it's security features of administrator and different access priviledges, makes it even more unlikely that anyone else using it could screw it up. this is good. you folks are really helping me think this out. ( i want him to get a nice new mac!!!)
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You must see one thing the mac that I have ordened from Easyware has only a value of 799$. Downgrading this configuration would be a shame. "I have information from Steve Jobs that there maybe a new Imac with a similar configuration." I'm afraid that less costly upgrades are in the make and that the internetpc I'm using has to continue it's life. BTW I have money(only fryday or saternday) and my dad don't likes the look of Imac and it must be able to run windows. If I got an Imac I would love the processor(kidding), the only thing I'm seeing...is that in the first year I was writing software for xt and they were classic macs in class. Now at the university I don't see them back. You find them as garbage.
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