Motorola breaks the speed barrier - 1.0ghz... Intel demos 5ghz chip.

[verlorenengel]

What the hell is wrong with Motorola? I'm losing faith in Motorola and consequently Apple day by day.
I just bought a dual athlon 1.4 system with a ultra160 scsi drive (15000rpm) for less than the price of the entry model G4 which is what, 800 odd mhz?

Don't get me wrong I love OSX and Apple, but Motorola+Apple = hell.

I can't believe how far behind Apple is lagging because of Motorola.

[rinse]

This argument has been beaten to death... the thing is, beyond any sort of platfrom zealotry or bias... My 733mhz G4 is still freakin' fast.

I can do everything i want to (video, web design, photoshop, flash, Quake 3) and still perform those tasks quickly. I don't give two shits about clockspeed.

[verlorenengel]

I find my dual 500 very slo with a majority of osx applications.. In contrast when I first bought it, running os9 it was blazing fast.. and I assume os9 would do the dual 500 justice.. Pity about X I guess.
I think carbon apps are the worst hit on my machine, native cocoa apps can be slow but not "cludgy" which is the feeling I get using carbon apps.

[mindbend]

I first posted some serious speed complaints about OS X's speed a couple of months ago and got blasted for it. People with DP 500s said their machines were "smooth as glass". I was running an SP 450 and getting quite sucky performance and was very skeptical about these DP 500 claims.

I was disappointed to come to the realization that OS X simply is too demanding for Apple's mid level (formerly top level) machines. After months of bitching and moaning about this, I finally just came to accept it and blew a buttload on the new DP G4 1 gig.

Suffice it to say that for the most part, OS X runs great on it. Some Apps like IE5 still suck, so I've got to assume there's simply some suck ass code in there. The Quartz layer has still got a touch of stickiness to it, but it's very comfortable. Finder navigation and even resizing is quite nice. Only windows with tons of icons and dynamic organization show any sluggishness and not enough to complain about (though that's a relative statement I've come to see).

I still have faith that X can be fine tuned a bit more for speed and currently their best machine, albeit expensive, is quite fast. In some areas it's insanely fast. Take 22X MP3 encoding for example. Or realtime DV previews in Final Cut, wow. Or video encoding. Also, any game I'm able to throw at it is now glass smooth at full resolutions and all options turned on. The new Macs are finally for real in all areas. And they'd better be at that price.

[.dev.lqd]

My DP 500 is still pretty smooth. I push it pretty hard, and I'm a little sloppy in terms of keeping my installation tidy.

As far as applications go- blame the developers. Just because application developers can release tight, streamlined code doesn't mean my hardware is any less fast.

[verlorenengel]

Well obviously internet explorer is one of the most commonly used applications right? And it stinks.

But what are the alternatives?

This is what happens when I download a file with IE:
1. Annoyed because it appears to have no multithreading
2. Start up OmniWeb
3. 15minutes later (or sometimes not) OmniWeb crash reporter pops up and OmniWeb is rendered useless
4. Start up Mozilla
5. Get sick of mozilla because I hit apple N three times before a window pops up, then go file -> new window and four popup... [or other weird buggy apple key woes]

OmniWeb would be okay if it didn't blowup randomly.. I'm using sneakypeek 28 so that's probably why.. But I think the browsers for X really do suck right now.

Has anyone tried installing VPC and using IE for Win9x/XP and is it a viable alternative or not really?
I'd like to see a better entourage also...

Photoshop (b743) I find to be usable, very good for a Carbon application.

[rinse]

Originally posted by verlorenengel
Well obviously internet explorer is one of the most commonly used applications right? And it stinks.

But what are the alternatives?

This is what happens when I download a file with IE:
1. Annoyed because it appears to have no multithreading
2. Start up OmniWeb
3. 15minutes later (or sometimes not) OmniWeb crash reporter pops up and OmniWeb is rendered useless
4. Start up Mozilla
5. Get sick of mozilla because I hit apple N three times before a window pops up, then go file -> new window and four popup... [or other weird buggy apple key woes]

Ha! I do have to admit, yes this has happened to me.

I'd like to see a better entourage also...

Yes, it is a bit buggy. I have witnessed several odd IMAP related hiccups.... however a patch is around the corner, and for M$, Office.X is really nice!

Photoshop (b743) I find to be usable, very good for a Carbon application. [/b]

I agree, however, one doesn't want to praise a company on their beta's too highly or they suddenly become GMs

My main argument against OSX is the Finder. Quite simply it is sluggish and buggy.

[verlorenengel]

Ahh yes Finder. What were they thinking making the main filesystem browser / backend to the display system Carbon. ?!