MacOS X Sucks

[Angus_D]

uhm... OS X doesn't "suck" in my opinion.
Mac OS X does support things. It supports the myriad of programs for Mac OS 9 and below via Classic and with some work via Carbon. Any NeXTStep/OpenStep apps should work on it with some porting. And last, but by no means least, it supports most UN*X apps, but they need a little bit of work to iron out incompatibilities.

Cocoa is a very efficient, cool framework that enables application development to be much more streamlined than ever before.

Carbon enables all Mac OS developers to use their current skills to develop great Mac OS X apps.

And best of all, developers are interested in Mac OS X and it has FREE DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. This way more and more programs will be supported.


I fully understand the logic behind Apple's decision to use RISC... It's definitely a superior technology to CISC processors such as Intel's x86/Pentium range. However, Motorola has much less R&D funding than Intel does, so progression will be slower.

Apple is really banging Mot tho because everybody realises that even though Steve Jobs can do Photoshop bakeoff after bakeoff, nobody will believe it until they pump up the MHz.

And I dispute the statement that most of OS X wan't written by Apple - NeXT is now part of Apple, and they wrote a load of it, but loads of the actual OS is written by Apple. It was ported to PPC by Apple.

[AdmiralAK]

OS X might have it's bases in NeXT, and it might not be
considered an apple product, but guess who the founder and
president of NeXT was....non other than Steve Jobs, yep, the guy who created apple as well with a few other guys such as Wozniak.
While OS X might not be the child of apple directly, it is the evolution of Job's project and as far as I am concerned
Jobs is apple. He brought the company back from financial hell.
The only thing I regret is that he whas not used any of the newton technologies in macs. Can you imagine the posibilities if macs can built in with 100% handwritting support and voice support?
It would be damned nice
(Hey by the way, what happened to speech recognition and speakable items in OS X ? lol :P)


Admiral

[jove]

"(Hey by the way, what happened to speech recognition and speakable items in OS X ? lol :P)"

I have found references to them in the developer's docs. Hopefully they just are not complete yet.

[latourfl]

I believe that speach technology as well as handwritting recognition could make the Mac more powerfull and distinctive. This technology is part of the Mac for a few years, and I would like to see it improved with OS X...

In fact, even if the first comparison with Win95 surprised and shocked me, we can hope one thing: if with their big publicity campain Microsoft sold like bread a piece of crap, Apple can do it's best to promote it's power with this new tool on the Mac. The world need to know that OS X is the best, and I'm judging it seriously, not just because I love the Mac anyway...

So a computer that greets you with speach as soon as it is out of the box would be terrific. My iMac came with a step by step installater of an internet acces (can't remeber the name). It was impressive: the voice commands guiding you... And with QT, they promoted the possibility to make "help movies". Well now is the time for Apple to impress us... Make it all vocal, video, whatever, but make it great!

[AppleWatcher]

Yeah, I know this discussion for years.

But I think Henry DOESN'T have Mac OS X, and that he has only once seen an Apple IIe or something.

If Henry should have Mac OS X, he would know 'the power of Aqua', even in a Beta version.

And then, Henry is talking about <STRIKE> Windowz 95 </STRIKE> - Sorry guys that I'm using this word - !

How do you dare? And in what year do you live?
I think he's using <word above striked>, and that he has seen http://www.apple.com/macosx/aqua and he can't believe it's a button so he only mad and he thinks it's made with Photoshop - for Mac, of course.

Come on Henry. You're here on macosx.com
else goto http://www.ilikewindows95soverymucht...tawasmadewith-
photoshop.com

AppleWatcher

[rene]

The Mac OS always had features Windows copied in a bad way, I think.
What I like about Mac OS 9 (classic) is its HIGH degree of customisebility.
You can change almost te whole OS..(the look anyway LOL)
And all with such ease of use. Like with programs like Kaleidoscope and stuff.
Ok, extensions cause conflicts but they can do funny things (just drop an extension
in the extensions folder and suddenly your Mac will play piano,LOL)
OS X (OS 10!) is still an infant, I am sure all the ways to make it a pleasnt OS as
9 will be dreamed up for OS X as well.
I hope so, anyway!!
In my opinion an OS should confirm to your wishes and not the other way round.
...OS 9 does, OS X doesnt (yet, I hope)
Forget windows, it is a boring sterile OS. The reason I love Mac is becoz the OS
always had a lot of humor in it, much ease of use and so on.
I use windows in Virtual PC, I do not like it..It always has me beating around the bush.
One of the prime things of the Mac OS is Sherlock..want to find somethin on your drive, or on the web.. Sherlock will take care of it! And fast too!
To my knowledge there is no such app build into windows. (hahahahaha)

Oh, and pleae to all of you who speak about Mac OS X version 1.0...
STOP!! you mean Mac OS 10 1.0? just stop it

and now: PLEAD to dedicated Mac users..
My comments are about the way you minimize windows in OS X.
I have mentioned this to Apple, but only now did I realize HOW IMPORTANT it really is.
In my opinion the FUTURE of the Mac OS (and Apple computers) could depend on it.
(as far as being a pleasant OS and the leader in the graphic field is concerned)
Let\'s say I am working in my favorite graphics or webdesign program...Sometimes I am
working on 5 documents at the same time, copying and pasting from one document to the other.
If one or more documents (or pallettes for that matter) are in the way, I can just click the titlebalk
and it/they collapse to a neat bar. I can then drag them out of the way, but can easily find again when
I want to work on it again, coz\' they remain on the desktop.(this is such a COOL feature, only the Mac OS has it!)
Then I imagined the same scenario working in Mac OS X... HORROR!!Every document or palette would
dissappear into the dock BUT...in the dock are many, many icons already (no Apple menu, you see...)
What HORROR it will be to find the right document again between all those tiny icons...
(want to work on \'doc.1\'...first go to the dock, find it,work on it, click it to send it to the dock again,
want to work on \'doc.2\'...first go to the dock, find it, click it... NEED I GO ON?)
I really and strongly believe that the \'old\' way of minimizing SHOULD be maintained in OS X.
There SHOULD be an option to choose between OS 9 style and OS X style minimizing,
becoz when working in graphics or webdesign applications the \'new\' style is HIGHLY impractible!

If you agree with me, please go over to Apple\'s Mac OS X feedback page to voice your opinion
http://www.apple.com/macosx/beta/feedback.html

If we do it NOW we might still be in time!
Okee, thank you!

[Nick]

There seems some confusion here, I have an Athlon 1000Mhz, and a G4 500Mhz, when running any Photoshop command the G4 is about 64% faster. Both machines have 128MB RAM available for Photoshop. The athlon is running Windows ME, the G4 OS 9.01. When running OS X on G4 it still beats the Athlon in Classic mode. May be the previous comparison forgot to adjust the memory allocated in Photoshop for the Mac??
As for OS X, I have given it 8/10, to put this into perspective Windows ME gets 4/10. OS X will have some problems but no where near as many as Windows NT, 2000, ME, 98....
May be before people compare operating systems they should learn how to use them. I suggest it is rarely the operating system at fault, more often an arogent incompetant user who fails to recognise their own failures.
May be I\'m unfair, but Apple OS\'s are always faster than Wintel equivalents for major work, Mac\'s are sometimes slow, Wintel boxes usually crash and die given a sniff of serious work. (Try rendering a 1.3GB CMYK Photoshop file on a 1.1GhzAthlon and see how far that gets before the Mac has finished)

[smileyq]

I'll start off by telling you what I do. I'm a system administrator for a rather large isp. I will admit that I tend to be a huge UNIX fan because of my job but that doesn't matter in this situation.
Mac OS X is something that windows users just can't and won't understand. I am a windows user mcse, have a pc , own ibooks powerbooks and a G4. As with any OS out there its only what you make it. If you look into OS X what can you say you dont' like about it. Is it not fast enough for you? hmm fast for me... Is it not robust enough and powerfull enough for you? hmm well it does more than windows can at the moment because of the BSD kernel. Oh yea.. are you saying it sucks because it doesnt crash when one simple app crashes? Well I'll stop bashing because as I said I'm a multiplatform user. But the point being you can't diss something you know nothing about and have no clue the power of. In my opinion this could be the best consumer OS to ever hit the market. I guess we will all see but me I will have my copy March 24. Its up to you if you want to learn yourself.
-Smileyq