How can Apple justify their prices when they have fallen to far behind?!

[ksuther]

That last post seemed like a poem...

You obviously show your lack of knowledge of OS X and UNIX by slamming swap files. Swap files are built in virtual memory, so that when you run out of real RAM you can still run more applications, unlike OS 9. These files get shuffled around as needed, and are partly what make OS X a "good thing". If you turn off swap files, you'll see that your computer begins to move the pace of a slug, and you'd be even more mad with the performance of your system.

As for charging too much for a system, that has been covered pretty well in previous posts. Take a look around, you'll see that many PC's are actually about the same price of Mac.

Next time it would be nice if you could also proof read your post, or get the spelling and grammar right the first time, it's a real pain to try to decipher posts like yours.

*sigh*

[phatsharpie]

Originally posted by Ronnie Fitz
I feel the same way!
not all of us can afford new macs!
hell os x is getting more like winblows every day!!!!!
Heck Who needs a swap file???
windows has had one for years!!
And you can evan turn it off! you cant in x.
see what i mean?
Ya Apple is getting way behind and charging to much
for there computers!!!
i wish apple would get there stuff together!!!!
I am an Apple Nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but this is to much
Please dont Flame me
it is just the way i feel and see it

Are you complaining that OS X includes a much better virtual memory management scheme than OS 9? What are you talking about? OS 9's memory management was a joke! With OS X you don't even have to worry about memory allocation, it's completely transparent. And if I remember correctly, you can indeed turn virtual memory off (it's in one of the configuration files), but that would be a big no no, since it can cause all kinds of havoc.

How is Apple being way behind? Just because it's not using AMD/Intel chips it's suddenly way behind? Heck, UltraSPARC chips and MIPS chips used in Sun and SGI boxes are barely hitting 1GHz and that's at the highend of their product line, yet no one is screaming that those boxes are underperfomers. So what are these complaint directed at specifically?

[Valrus]

Originally posted by Ronnie Fitz

I am an Apple Nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but this is to much
Please dont Flame me
it is just the way i feel and see it

Do your research and check your grammar. Each exclamation point beyond the first makes me 1/4 as likely to listen to a word you say, if indeed you had anything interesting, new or valuable to say in the first place. Expressing unpopular opinions is fine. Doing it in an irritating and unintelligent way makes you flamebait.

Read this.

-the valrus, getting tired of this crap

[fryke]

All the whining I heard in the last year or so... About Mac OS X not being what users wanted, about the PowerPC lagging behind Intel or AMD megahertz-wise... It made me think. I tend to show people where they're wrong and to show them solutions for their problems where they're right. Maybe I should just stop doing that. I should start anew talking like the following paragraph.

Don't like what Apple does? Buy a Whinetel system and start using a different forum to whine about Windows or Linux. Now let *us* get back to fun & work.

But, of course, half of the fun to be a member of a forum community are the flame wars, right? Maybe I should add more fuel to the fire... Let's try with yet another version of me that is not the true me...

Yeah, Apple's machines are too expensive, really. I mean, you can get an AMD Dual 1 GHz almost for free if you care to look for it. And the OS doesn't even have decent theming. Plus Windows had multithreading and preemptive multitasking for years, now!! Even Windows 95 had that, if I recall correctly. So what's the fuss about Mac OS X? I liked Mac OS 9 better, anyway. And I hate the Dock. And please don't flame me, this is just how I feel, I don't want answers to my posts, this is why I'm telling you all what I think on a forum.

[theed]

Hey Fryke ... you suck. :-)

Seriously though, I think Apple's prices are a little stiffer than I'd like, but they're better than ever. The intel compatible slice of the PC industry is even cheaper, but in every sense of the word, not just price. I'm glad they're both there, and yes Apple does need to watch its Price vs. Value Added ratio. I'm glad there is competition in the market. My next purchase will be an Apple.

And the link posted by Valrus is awesome.

[spookyfusion]

I think I agree with everyone here including our thread originator. Let's face it, this boils down to two things:

Q: Are Macs too expensive?
A: Yes.

Q: Are they worth it?
A. Yes.

I'm sure anyone here could give a valid argument for anything in between these two questions, but everytime I even *think* about a new computer I go through this rather tedious flowchart in my head and come up with the same results. Macs are difficult for the average user to afford. I think one day far off in the future when I am totally loaded I will have a house full of G200s or whatever exists at that point in time, but for now I have to make sacrifices to use the computer I want to use. And really, it's worth it to me!

[Valrus]

Amen spookyfusion.

You may have to fight senne for that avatar...

-the valrus

[spookyfusion]

really? does he/she have the same one? this icon came in the radiohead set.