Netscape 7 PR1!!!

[Valrus]

Originally posted by Nummi_G4
but i bet you fellas IE 5.5 will blow it away Netscape will always be Netscape. With their bloated crud.

And that's different from Microsoft... um, how, exactly?
Look, just use Mozilla, and then everyone will be happy.

-the valrus

[macridah]

i'm starting to like this more and more each time i use it. It's more aquaish and with more work, this will be an awesome product. Good that people have bad stuff to say, hopefully netscape hears them and they fix it so no one can say anything.

We're probably gonna see a PR2 then a final product and by then this will be a polished, well engineered product.

[nkuvu]

Originally posted by BBenve
you can't judge a browaser by your personal thoughts... if you review something.. you sholuld be as objective as possible... and you should not say .. a product is a piece of shit...you should justify your opinion with real feed back.. not.... only by the personal feeling of a gui.
Just my 2 cents

Considering that probably 98% of us (or more) are not certified UI analysts, we have nothing else to go by. Opinion on GUI is the only thing that most of us have. The look and feel of the application is a big thing to most people, myself included. I use OmniWeb because I like its look more than any other browser, not because "objectively" it's the best.

So when someone asks you if you like a book, do you immediately go into "Well, the sentences were quite well constructed, and I liked the flow of the paragraphs, but the chapter endings needed to be placed differently"? No, you start with your opinion of the contents. At least, everyone that I have ever met does.

I saw one reference to the fact that NS is made by AOL and therefore must be garbage. So I'm not sure why you've latched on to this particular comment above all others...

[BBenve]

I used the AOL one...cause i already made the same thing long time ago with M$ and IE ..most people judge the product by the manucacturer..and this is not an objective way to do a review.. plus.... we have more than a gui.. especially ..cause in a browser... the gui is the least important thing.
I mean sure it plays a role.. but for me the first things are other.. Compatibility (mozillas omniweb and others do their best.. but are way far from great) i go for speed... and most mozilla have that.. i go for support, plug in and stuff like that.. and pretty much everyone now is in a good position considering this last one... last for me is the gui... it is last for 2 reason:
1 well the guy does not increase the quality of the product itself.
2...there's plenty of Skins

"you start with your opinion of the contents. At least, everyone that I have ever met does. "
So do I.. but i don t start saying.. well the book has a bad cover..and o god i hate the author.. ....MAN have you seen the publisher???'

well just my 2 cents

[nkuvu]

Notice those "for me the first things are other" and "last for me is the gui" statements? Those are called opinion. GUI isn't important for you, fine. But don't criticize others for considering GUI first.

And yes, I would refuse to read a book because of the author. I do think the publisher has a lot to do with the quality of the book. And I do consider the cover to convey information about the contents.

Examples:
I don't like Stephen King books. I don't like his stories, his writing style, his genre. So why would I go out and waste my time reading his new novel?

O'Reilly books have been consistently good in my eyes. All of them that I have seen have been well written and full of good information. I'd recommend any O'Reilly book sight unseen, whether I know the subject in question or not.

If I see a computer book with "Learn this in 21 days!!!! You too can be a master!!! Yippee kiy-yay!!!!!" in neon yellow with pink lettering, I'll skip it. Sorry, if they can't go to enough trouble to get a good cover, I doubt that they'll go to any trouble to get good content.


The reason I bring this up is that I see a lot of good feedback about this browser, almost all of it being pretty objective, about more than just the UI. Mail handling, speed, extraneous features, pop-up blocking. I just don't see why the judgment of the UI is such a big deal to you.

Edit: p.s. I was incorrect in the fact that there was one comment about the makers of the browser. I see two, must have missed one in my first pass. Sorry.

[fryke]

Netscape = Mozilla (old) + AOL Stuff

Mozilla = Mozilla (new)

If you actually *like* Netscape 7 PR1, you should download the latest nightly build of Mozilla and trash Netscape forever.

Go to http://mozilla.org ... On the lower right are the nightly builds. Just click on Mac OS X.

You won't have to update nightly, of course, only if you find that the version you're using is getting too old. I haven't had bad builds in the last few months, but then again, I'm using OmniWeb 85% of my browsing time, IE 10% and Mozilla 5%.

Actually, if you want to ban MS from your Mac, OW and Mozilla make a good pair.

[googolplex]

Nummi, Wow I'm looking forward to the sleek lean peice of software known as IE 5.5. I'm sure it will be the best thing ever. At least Microsoft will tell you so.

[BlingBling 3k12]

Using NS7 for Windows right now... it's the best NS i've used... i always hated the previous versions.... 4.x ****ED!

NS 2 was the best way back when... ahh i remember those days of Windows 3.11