Why do these damn Dell PC's keep getting faster?!

[culo77]

Ok my 2cents,

My girlfriend as an 300mhz pentium ll PC with 68mb ram an 10 or a 7gb harddrive running windoze 98.
She is way more than content with her PC, she only checks her email, types her papers for school and email for school, and runs the occasional programs for her college classes.

My girlfriends Dad never had a computer...........
Butt just bought the Gateway 700xl pentium4 2.53ghz with 512k L2 cache 120gb harddrive with windoze XPeepee.
he will most likely use it for email and websurfing and to do some work at home.

As for me i gotz a HP 850mhz pentium lll with 128mb a 30gb on windows crashME.
I use to run ACID Pro 3, and a few other music programs. I also use it for school and accounting programs. and the email websurfing.......
butt the difference for me is, i am HAPPY with the SPEED of my comp(I know i need more memory)
BUTT I KAN NOT STAND M$ ANYMORE......
i do have a short temper........i threw my mouse out the window when i was working on a track and didnt save it in acid pro and the dang thing froze, the whole comp not the program.
then i threw my keyboard out the window when i was working in excel for a college assignment, that i put of to the last minute, and i wanted to listen to music cause i was gettin tired so i went to open up my mp3 player and ......
you guesseded it ....i saw the blue screen of sadness....then so did my keyboard!!!!!!!!

Ok after all that i said that has no point, no is the point you read for....

it like what "RacerX" said its what works for you.....

1. For me I dont need speed.... I need a NEW PLATFORM...which will be MAC X and either the new iBook or Tibook it depends on the money i have by august. (anything like acid pro for mac you guys know about?)

2. I told my girlfriends dad that he could buy my PC.....BUT he has a "napoleon complex"....He needs the biggest, fastest, to run "DIaL_UP" internet surfing and email??????
I dont know why? Plus he paid $5000 for the dang blue screen of sadness

3. as for my girlfriend she had that computer for 4 years and is still happy with it but the only reason she said she said she wants my PC when i eat apple, is the fact of my 3178 songs i have. (ILOVE MP3)
butt i am talking her into a iBook for VET school and i will keep my PC for the thing that needs PC.....or get my mom hooked on eBay


What i am saying is BE HAPPY WE HAVE OPTIONS

CAUSE WITH ALL THESE OPTIONS ALMOST EVERYONE CAN FIND A COMPUTER TO SATISFY THEM.

so quit complaing and be happy with what we have and get everyone to by APPLE..

your truely,
M$ and bill Gates makes me cry

[nkuvu]

Originally posted by culo77:
pentium 42.53ghz

Wow, I guess I really have lost track of the current progress of the x86 world. That's a fast processor.

And that's an expensive temper you have there.

As to the rest of the post...

Uh, good? I think? I'm lost.

[boi]

RacerX: chill. you're talking like i just insulted your mother. it's a computer.
why should i be spared? read the sentence after it. because i'm NOT going to trade it in.

the main point is this: i prefer macs. we all do. that's why we're here. but when gateway can produce a 2ghz machine for only $800, one starts to wonder why apple can only produce a 600mhz g3 for that much. if apple is trying to get converts, they'll have to step it up. mhz sell computers, it's the UI and the ease of use that keep them.
okay, great, a mac works best for you. you're more productive with a slow mac than a fast pc. hooray. guess what? someone productive on a pc is now /more/ productive on a fast PC. i'm glad you like your mac better... but i'm not trying to convice YOU to get a PC. you have to look at the general market (which is comprised of mostly PC users). as my computer science prof would say "most consumers worship the speed God. if you learn to realize this, you will sell programs".

now about Omniweb: it doesn't fully support java. it renders css wrong. it ignores a lot of css. it forces you to use aqua, which doesn't always fit in a certain table. anti-aliasing is only good for some people. some view it as fuzzy text. most people don't even know what anti-aliasing means, and i don't care if it's anti aliased with a drop shadow... as long as i can read it, i'm fine. IE on windows runs SO quick. admit it... PCs have mac users beat when it comes to browser wars.

anyway, i'd just like to see a little more open-mindedness about the subject. a lot of mac fans are complete fanatics, and don't care WHAT pcs have to offer. that's no way to look at things.
i'm not saying there aren't PC users like that, it's just a larger percentage of mac users are.

[phatsharpie]

Now this discussion involves megahertz and browsers... It's not going to be pretty... **ducks behind couch**

Seriously though, does a 200GHz machine really make someone wordprocess better? I mean, a 1GHz Celeron would probably suit 99% of the computing population just fine. So when it all comes down to it is marketing. There must be a plateau of diminishing return on performance and speed, once you reach that plateau, who cares how much raw power is in your processor? The truth of the matter is, the PowerPC processor, as it stands, will never beat Intel in pure megahertz, and I think that's why Apple is focusing on its user experience (both UI and industrial design) and OS, where is still does have an advantage. A lot of people I know (me included) are switching to Macs because of OS X. The truth is that even if Macs have 50GHz G4's, I wouldn't have even thought about switching if Macs are still using OS 9.

The bottom line is, if your computer does what you want and does it in a timely manner, what's the fuss? SGI and Sun workstations are mostly in the 500MHz range, but do we call these machines pieces of cr*p?

Browsing is indeed a bit faster on the Windows platform, but then again, the HTML rendering engine is integrated into the shell. For speed, we sacrifice 3rd party browser compatibility (I love Mozilla on the PC, but it crashes quite a bit for no good reason) and browser choice. Do we really want that on the Mac platform? I think all the browsers are indeed getting better, but OS X is still a rather new OS, it'll probably take time before the browsing experience gets better.

[RacerX]

by boi
chill. you're talking like i just insulted your mother.

First off, I am not acting like you are insulting my mother (if you were insulting my mother we would be best friends ).

Have you ever worked with Gateways? Of course they cost next to nothing, because that represents the quality of them! I did support of a company that had 12 Gateways. They were the most crash prone systems I've ever come across. Even if I was a Windows user, I would never willingly pay for a Gateway.

if apple is trying to get converts, they'll have to step it up. mhz sell computers, it's the UI and the ease of use that keep them.

Apple doesn't make processors, Gateway doesn't make processors (or good computers), Dell doesn't make processors (but they'll claim to be the first to have done it to sell systems ). Apple has made their processor choice (I wish they would have gone more with IBM, but we can't have everything) and they made that choice for their own good reasons. Beyond that, all of this is pointless.

okay, great, a mac works best for you. you're more productive with a slow mac than a fast pc. hooray. guess what? someone productive on a pc is now /more/ productive on a fast PC. i'm glad you like your mac better... but i'm not trying to convice YOU to get a PC.

I have never tried to convert anyone. And guess what?, I've been saying that all a long. Why does it bother you that someone is both productive and happy with their PC? I'm happy for people who are productive with their PCs. Part of my job is to make sure that people with PCs are happy and productive. If someone ask me what type of computer they should buy, I ask them what they need it for. If they start down the PC path, then I'll help them with that choice. If they ask me what I use, they find out that I use a Mac. That is as far as I go in pushing any platform.

now about Omniweb: it doesn't fully support java. it renders css wrong. it ignores a lot of css. it forces you to use aqua, which doesn't always fit in a certain table. anti-aliasing is only good for some people. some view it as fuzzy text. most people don't even know what anti-aliasing means, and i don't care if it's anti aliased with a drop shadow... as long as i can read it, i'm fine. IE on windows runs SO quick. admit it... PCs have mac users beat when it comes to browser wars.

First, I have only pointed out what makes OmniWeb my choice of web browsers. Why do you feel the need to affirm your browser choice (I think we are getting into some insecurity issues here) over mine? Could IE (on Windows or Mac) spell check this text as I type it? Could IE (on Mac or Windows) read me your text as it was posted? I have been using OmniWeb for a few years and have been quite happy with it. With OmniWeb 4 on Mac OS X, I have found that pages look better than I have ever seen them (and for some reason they don't seem as annoying as they once were... I wonder why ).

I would point out that your admit it... comment shows that you have some Mac-PC issues that you need to work out. My computing (and browser for that matter) choices are not governed by the masses (as it sounds like yours are). I use what I want regardless of what anyone else uses (I'm one of the only people who still uses Rhapsody as one of my primary operating systems), so I could careless if PCs have mac users beat in your mind. I have the cool features I want, less of the annoying ones that I don't, and live a very happy life (which it doesn't sound like you can say the same).

anyway, i'd just like to see a little more open-mindedness about the subject. a lot of mac fans are complete fanatics, and don't care WHAT pcs have to offer. that's no way to look at things.

And I have never looked at them that way... so what is your point?

[anrkngl]

The funny thing is that the PC games have been keeping around the 400-700 MHz range for reccomended speed, while the RAM usage and graphics requirements have risen. The 2.5GHz is the difference between 65 FPS and 165. I don't think you'd miss those frames much

[boi]

your last response was nothing but personal attacks, and i'm not going to do the same. i use macs because i am most productive with it. i, however, stay open-minded about buying a PC. your "Mac-PC issues" comment makes you seem as though you're a little over-zealous about computers. it's not a religion, it's a computer.
as to not completely hijack this thread, let's get back to the basic points of this thread:
PCs are faster than Macs.
PCs are cheaper than Macs.
We all love Macs anyway because they're much easier to use.


now please stop insulting me. you're going to make me cry.

[dricci]

now please stop insulting me. you're going to make me cry.

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