Why do these damn Dell PC's keep getting faster?!

[boi]

man, people have always dreamed of uniting the world... see what happens when we do?

it's not pretty.

[nkuvu]

Why oh why does everyone who is proclaiming that PCs are better look only at CPU speed and price? Is that all you ever care about? Processor speed and sub-$1000 systems?

Every single person that I have seen on these boards says the same thing. "I love Macs, don't get me wrong, but PCs kick Macs all over the place. I mean, I can get a system for $800 and ... "

Is it just the same mindset that blinds these people to all of the other parts of the whole OS and hardware issue?

In my mind, there are about fifty things that you have to look at to evaluate an OS. Here are just a few (and note that PCs are better in some areas, and Macs are better in others -- I'm not trying to promote one system or another):
- Availability of hardware
- Reliability of hardware
- Integration of hardware and software
- Overall reliability of the operating system with third party or built in apps. If one app crashes do you have to re-install the OS?
- Overall reliability of the operating system with core services. If you perform a regular action will it crash the OS?
- Ease of use for novice users
- Ease of use for expert users
- Compatibility with other OSs
- Compatibility with peripheral devices
- Overall performance of the OS when performing routine tasks
- Overall performance of the OS when performing intensive tasks (3D rendering, for example)
- Consistency throughout the GUI if one is available
- Ease of use of the GUI for each individual person. Joe Schmoe might think this is the best GUI in the world, but John Smith thinks that other one kicks.

Et cetera et cetera. There are so many things to consider, just looking at processor speed and system price is like buying a car buy examining only the steering wheel and the tires.

It's just plain ridiculous.

[boi]

i didn't say PCs were better. just faster. and for that you look at mhz... right? i could be mistaken... i have been before ^_^

[RacerX]

by boi
your last response was nothing but personal attacks, and i'm not going to do the same.

Please define what you consider a personal attack. So far there hasn't even surfaced the need for personal attacks. You should go back and read the post again. I just responded to your points (and that shouldn't have hurt your feelings).

your "Mac-PC issues" comment makes you seem as though you're a little over-zealous about computers. it's not a religion, it's a computer.

In what way? Oh please elaborate on this (most people here have a good idea of my computing background, so this should be quite entertaining).

now please stop insulting me. you're going to make me cry.

I haven't been insulting you. Believe me when I say, you will know when I start to insult you (and no, that wasn't the start either).

[nkuvu]

I should have specified that the "you" I was referring to in my previous post is not a specific "you", it's a general "you".

That said, I have a minor quibble -- you (this is a specific you, boi) didn't just say that PCs are faster:

PCs have mac users beat when it comes to browser wars.

This is a claim that not only are browsers faster, but better for PCs. I'm not arguing whether they are or not, just reminding you that you said more than just speed claims.

And while I'm posting, I missed the personal attacks that RacerX used against you. There are some personal comments, but nothing I would consider an attack. Nor do I believe that RacerX's post is "nothing but personal attacks". I believe he raised some very valid points and explained himself and his ideas a little more thoroughly.

[RacerX]

and then boi said
and for that you look at mhz... right? i could be mistaken...

Okay, here is a MHz test for you.

(1) Which is faster?

• a. 300 MHz PPC 604e
  b. 300 MHz PPC 603e
  c. 300 MHz PPC 750

(2) Which is faster?

• a. 200 MHz MIPS R4400sc
  b. 180 MHz MIPS R5000sc
  c. 75 Mhz MIPS R8000sc

(3) Which is faster?

• a. 133 MHz Pentium
  b. 132 MHz PPC 604
  c. 133 MHz MIPS R4600pc
  d. 133 MHz MIPS R4600sc

(Extra Credit) Which is faster?

• a. 33 MHz MC68040
  b. 33 MHz MIPS R3000
  c. 50 MHz MicroSPARC

[boi]

alright, the entire post wasn't personal attacks, just the last two paragraphs.

Why do you feel the need to affirm your browser choice (I think we are getting into some insecurity issues here) over mine?

i don't. i'm merely stating that browsing is faster on a PC. if we all kept our opinions to ourselves, there wouldn't be much of a forum, would there?

I would point out that your admit it... comment shows that you have some Mac-PC issues that you need to work out. My computing (and browser for that matter) choices are not governed by the masses (as it sounds like yours are).

huh? where did that come from?

so I could careless if PCs have mac users beat in your mind. I have the cool features I want, less of the annoying ones that I don't, and live a very happy life (which it doesn't sound like you can say the same).

that too... where did that come from?




i think racerX and i agree mostly, actually, if one re-reads all of our posts. it depends on the person. racerX likes the mac through and through. i like the speed and browsing of the PC and prefer the mac's hardware and OS. i just wish Mac would speed up and get their scrolling/browsing act together. then i wouldn't ever bother you poor people again-- i'd just sit in my room all day, reminding myself how cool my computer is.

i think i'm just tired of Mac elitists, and i mistook racerX to be one. when any mention of PCs is made, a lot of elitists attack the person who maybe thinks PCs are better, maybe, perhaps.

as a web designer, i'm really frustrated with Omniweb, so i recently stopped going through the extra effort to make pages OW complient as well. worrying about IE/Mozilla is plenty for me to handle.

peace to all. i'm off to bed ^_^

-_-..zzz

[dricci]

Uh oh.. Web Developer who is having issues getting their page to work with Gecko.

I see this turning into a W3C standards thread pretty soon.

However, It's 1:15 AM. I'm not going to start it.