Why do these damn Dell PC's keep getting faster?!

[MacLegacy]

I hope that the PM speed bump won't be as low as 200 mhz or Apple would *really* have screwed, and if they were to be 1.2 ghz at the top, they better have ddr333, but even then the speed bump would be really too low!

I agree with Bling, it's annoying seeing the PC's becoming faster and faster, Megahertz Myth won't do over "Apple Dual 1ghz is faster than 2.5Ghz P4" simply because it ain't true anymore, especially with the new improved bus speed.

Well, I only hope Apple surprises every of us with something big! Like 1.5ghz PowerMacs, DDR333 or DDR266 ram (preferably 333) and 64 bit PCI ports

[jocknerd]

I recently bought an iBook G3 500mhz. It was my first Apple product. I love this laptop but I am a little disappointed in the performance. I run linux at home and at work. I've got an Athlon 1.4ghz pc and an Intel PIII 667mhz machines at home and a Pentium 4 1.6ghz pc at work. All three run circles around my laptop. I know my G3 500mhz system is at the low end especially with its 66mhz bus.

Why have the pc processors blown past Motorola in the last four years? Its easy. There is competition. Intel and AMD continue to push each other. Motorola on the other hand has no competition. They've gotten fat and lazy. Apple needs to look for alternatives. They've already dropped the old-school Apple operating system (much to the chagrin of many Apple loyalists), picking up many new fans such as my self by finally having a real operating system in OS X. Now its time to drop Motorola. Without competition for Motorola, the PowerPC will continue to fall behind even further. And unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be anybody who wants to make PowerPC compatible chips. Its just the laws of competition. It brings out the best. And Motorola isn't getting any. So why should they improve their product?

I know some of you Mac diehards won't agree with me and think the current performance is good enough for you, but personally I get fed up watching an cd icon spinning on my desktop when I click on an app.

Now if Apple released Aqua for the x86 version of Darwin, I would be all over that.

[Nummi_G4]

OMG not again! If this thread starts into an OS X for intel thread again... I will go nuts! NO AQUA ON INTEL DUDE! not going to happen. so forget about it.

[RacerX]

mused by jocknerd
Why have the pc processors blown past Motorola in the last four years? Its easy. There is competition. Intel and AMD continue to push each other. Motorola on the other hand has no competition. They've gotten fat and lazy. Apple needs to look for alternatives. They've already dropped the old-school Apple operating system (much to the chagrin of many Apple loyalists), picking up many new fans such as my self by finally having a real operating system in OS X. Now its time to drop Motorola. Without competition for Motorola, the PowerPC will continue to fall behind even further. And unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be anybody who wants to make PowerPC compatible chips. Its just the laws of competition. It brings out the best. And Motorola isn't getting any. So why should they improve their product?

Hate to be the one to point this out to you, but your system doesn't have a Motorola processor in it. Your system uses an IBM processor. And to top it off, it's the slowest speed version of what is their low end model. IBM makes some killer (and I mean fastest processors in the business killer) PowerPC processors, but Apple doesn't seem interested (at this time).

I would also point out that Apple chose to use G3s at 500-700 MHz even though IBM has been able to produce them at 1 GHz for some time now. Because the rest of IBM's G3 clients want low heat, IBM has not had any need to push that part of there production. If you really want to see what the PowerPC platform can do, find out about IBM's POWER4 series. Maybe then you can start asking what Intel (even though they are making strides with Itanium) and AMD have been doing all this time.

[roger]

Because the rest of IBM's G3 clients want low heat

This point is key. It is not just a case of sticking a faster chip in the current computers - they would overheat. Either the chips must produce less heat or more fans must be put in the design.

R.

[senne]

Originally posted by Edge100
I am not a high end user. I consider myself in the mid-range. More than just Omniweb and email, but less than heavy photoshop and FCP.

Wow, i'm a high-range! Cooool. And I'm a high-range just for fun.. Should i go working for money? Mnah.. Just 16 years old, ain't gonna work maity.



senne.