My Month With XP.

**azosx** · June 17th, 2002, 07:24 PM

yawn... it's like deja vu all over again (to quote someone famous)....

Microblows will never cease to amaze me.

Why is it when a PC user notes a positive experience with Windows there's always an offensive Mac user ready to belittle him? The truth can probably be found in the reverse of this senario as well.

Every platform, whether it be Mac, Windows, or UNIX has their pros and cons. It's absurd to think one is better than all the others at everything. To lock yourself into using just one is a shame.

For me I find my PC with Windows 2000 Advanced Server to be the best solution for my desktop computer at home. I'm hoping to find the PowerBook G4 to be a better mobile solution than any Wintel laptop on the market. I have a Cube and 15" Studio Display as well, and others in my house prefer that.

Do I run over to them and make fun of them for using the Cube? No. Is flaming over who's hardware and software counter-productive? Yes.

If I based my decision to use a specific platform on one or two bad experiences that every anti-Mac and PC user seem to do, there wouldn't be a computer in this world I'd feel right about using.

**Annihilatus** · June 17th, 2002, 07:37 PM

Out of curiosity, is that Mac OS X screenshot actually Mac OS X or simply Windows XP modified to look like OS X?

Andre

**Annihilatus** · June 17th, 2002, 07:42 PM

Nevermind, I just realized OmniWeb was launched on that shot.

Andre

**~~NeYo~~** · June 17th, 2002, 07:51 PM

LOL! Actually, it is windows XP, as i quoted!

Neyo

**Javintosh** · June 17th, 2002, 10:20 PM

Annihilatus

sorry, I did not mean to come off like a jackass.

Today I spent over 4 hours explaining to some idiot that the above-mentioned PageMaker/WinXP problem was not caused by operator (me) error. By the end I was ready to kill someone and it was not even time for lunch.

Then the rest of the day I watched the union electrician install standard electrical outlets (110s!) at a rate of 1 every 90 minutes. At the end of the day he left (and left me without power) because he did not have wire nuts? What *electrician* does not have wire nuts?

anyway, I came home muttering about that idiot at work. I sat down and found that you had repeated some of the same things he kept saying to me during those 4 hours...

soory about that.

and BTW: azosx - thanks for pointing it out.

That said:
I think that Win2K is a mediocre OS.
I also think that MacOS X is a mediocre OS.

However, I think that with Win2K took a turn southwards with WinXP (they *are* basically the same OS). On the other hand. I expect that MacOS X will take a turn for the better this fall.

**Annihilatus** · June 17th, 2002, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Javintosh
Annihilatus

sorry, I did not mean to come off like a jackass.

Today I spent over 4 hours explaining to some idiot that the above-mentioned PageMaker/WinXP problem was not caused by operator (me) error. By the end I was ready to kill someone and it was not even time for lunch.

Then the rest of the day I watched the union electrician install standard electrical outlets (110s!) at a rate of 1 every 90 minutes. At the end of the day he left (and left me without power) because he did not have wire nuts? What *electrician* does not have wire nuts?

anyway, I came home muttering about that idiot at work. I sat down and found that you had repeated some of the same things he kept saying to me during those 4 hours...

soory about that.

and BTW: azosx - thanks for pointing it out.

That said:
I think that Win2K is a mediocre OS.
I also think that MacOS X is a mediocre OS.

However, I think that with Win2K took a turn southwards with WinXP (they *are* basically the same OS). On the other hand. I expect that MacOS X will take a turn for the better this fall.

You didn't come off as a jackass, don't worry. I'm not the type to judge anyway.

I just thought about how to answer the age-old mac vs pc or macos vs windows with my own story.

As of friday, I was ready to switch to a Mac. In fact, I was ready to get rid of my duron 1100mhz with 512 megs ram fully equipped with 21 inch monitor for Triple-B's ibook. What finally stopped me is my realization that neither Windows, the hardware nor microsoft was souring my experience, but rather the windows users themselves.

For one, I work for a tech company where I deal with Windows users every day. The sheer stupidity of the majority of them makes me want to place them in a firing range and just go nuts. Frankly, whenever I watch anybody fuck up their Windows, I keep telling myself that none of this would have happened if they were all using Macs. On top of it all, the smart Windows users I know are all warez freaks.

Here's my profile. I'm an artist, I only use software I paid for. I can fix my own problems and I find Windows' interface to be the most convenient I've ever come across. What programs are opened are placed at the app bar at the bottom, running services are in the taskbar and if anything ever goes wrong, I can close the process with CTRL-ALT-DEL and end task. Basically, I know where everything is and I can customize it to my liking. Everything about Windows to me screams convenience. As a result of my realizing this, I decided to opt-out of getting a Mac for the time being (perhaps later when I become a full-time teacher but not yet).

With that realization comes another thought. If all of the idiots calling in with Windows problems got themselves Macs, would the problems really stop or would the idiots find new ways of fucking up the system?

Think about it, all spyware companies would start work on developing Mac spyware, Joe Idiot would start putting peanut button in the iMac CD-ROM slot and every moron out there would drag and drop the finder to the desktop, reboot and cause all sorts of trouble. In essence, if things were reversed and MacOS was number 1, would things really be better or would blame for all of the world's troubles simply be transferred to Steve Jobs and Apple?

Andre

**genghiscohen** · June 17th, 2002, 11:25 PM

I belong to a non-computer-related Yahoo group (gasps of shock from the audience). We do discuss our 'puters and their relative strengths and problems from time to time, though.
Three of the folks in this group have made the switch from Win98 or Win2k to XP. All three have had major hardware and/or software compatibility problems. Two of them like some of the new features, and plan to stick with XP. The 3rd is going back to Win98.
I'm one of three Mac users in the group (as far as I know), and the only OS X user. So I make sure to pass along news items showing the superiority of OS X whenever I come across them.

**Alexandert** · June 18th, 2002, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by xaqintosh
I'm getting very depressed by this thread, too much Pro-XP and Anti-Mac

Didnt anyone read my post??? You cant say Pro-XP and Anti-Mac. Is Mac an OS??? No it is not! It is a computer. You have to say Pro-PC and (some) Anti-Mac.

PCs with the right OS (ie. Linux) are great machines!