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Old June 20th, 2002, 12:22 AM
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now that you mention those lauch buttons. I just realized that we had those under OS 9 and they are gone. My brother-in-law's iBook even came with a sheet of raised white/translucent rubber-like icon stickers. You'd assign the F keys to do certain functions (volume control, brightness and contrast or to launch any app) and then afix the sticker you felt matched the function on the space above the function key.

They provides 3-4x as many stickers as you'd ever need.

I did not realize this was gone until now. I guess I did not use it much.

Come to think of it I have not really needed any key above and beyond the 3 volume keys and the CD eject key (which also pulls the CD in if it is out) that come with the standard apple keyboard. If you hold down the control key, you can use the eject key to sleep/shutdown/restart the computer.

A play/pause key might be nice, but if I am in front of the computer all iTunes controls can be used on a zoomed in window without switching your current app.

Of course, if I am not in front of the computer, I use the remote control to control all iTunes functions. I even setup the remote control for webTV style browsing with IE, but I stopped using it after a while. that remote control is very cool though. one of these days I'll figure out how to use an universal remote on my mac so I have more than the 17 buttons on the Digital Media Remote.
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Old June 20th, 2002, 12:27 AM
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One thing I shoul say about OSX's mail client. When you get mail, the client changes so you have a red circle on it with a white number. The white number is the number of unread messages.

This is a lot more useful than you'd think at first. In addition to knowing how many new messages there are on the system, if you choose not to read the new mail, you can come back to the computer and determine whether *additional* new email messages have arrived. Sometimes I just open the main email window, look at the subject lines and decide not to read any emails. Later on, I can tell of additional new emails showed up while I was away from the computer.

This is much more useful than a mere animation.
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Granted, yes, they came out on the PC first. But LimeWire, Napster, and AudioGalaxy have all been released on the Mac. Morpheus has moved to a gnutella server which can be handled by LimeWire, or a nice freeware app called Aquisition (xlife.org). And then there's Neo, an awesome shadow client for the Kazaa network. So there's plenty of file-sharing on the Mac.
However, it all first came out on the PC. You admit it, all's well.

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Heh. Well I don't need to change my desktop wallpaper every millisecond, and I don't need a Flash animation for notifying me of e-mail. If those are the only advantages of the Windows platform, it's more stagnant than even I thought it was.
First of all, I never said it was the only advantages. In fact, I never called them advantages. Their mention came at a point when I was talking about customization on the PC and how much I like it. In that remark though, you have proven to me that ****** and if you represent the Mac world in any way, I really feel sorry for it.

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As far as I can tell, you haven't made one single argument that defends the PC by any means. (Hint: How about mention business software that is not available for the Mac?) Oh, well, yeah, there's the business software that is not available for the Mac. Score: Mac - 50, PC - 1.
I was actually writing out a list of advantages of the PC over the Mac, most of which are obvious and some of which you'd probably not comprehend. Since I frankly don't want you to respond to me anymore, I deleted them mid-way. Your attitude repulses me and reminds me of why I chose to stay away from the Mac a while back. My family is a bunch of fanatical Catholics, their fanaticism annoys me to death. You, just like they, are a fanatic and once again, if you are a representation of the Mac community, I'd rather stay away.

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Old June 20th, 2002, 12:35 AM
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One thing I shoul say about OSX's mail client. When you get mail, the client changes so you have a red circle on it with a white number. The white number is the number of unread messages.

This is a lot more useful than you'd think at first. In addition to knowing how many new messages there are on the system, if you choose not to read the new mail, you can come back to the computer and determine whether *additional* new email messages have arrived. Sometimes I just open the main email window, look at the subject lines and decide not to read any emails. Later on, I can tell of additional new emails showed up while I was away from the computer.

This is much more useful than a mere animation.
This I frankly like and I wish Outlook Express had it. Considering Microsoft is trying to ram the program down our throats by being integrated into Windows XP, I figure they can at least have it automatically check and count mail. Of course, there are tons of free utilities out there that will do the job for you, but it would be nice to have it out of the box.

On the other hand, MacOSX works on top of BSD and from what I remember, BSD and Linux both, in Console mode at least, alert you of new mail and in fact count it at logon. Nice to see that Apple saw the need for such an option.

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Old June 20th, 2002, 12:45 AM
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Your attitude repulses me and reminds me of why I chose to stay away from the Mac a while back. My family is a bunch of fanatical Catholics, their fanaticism annoys me to death. You, just like they, are a fanatic and once again, if you are a representation of the Mac community, I'd rather stay away.
And your fanaticism about Microsoft repulses me as well – you say that it's the government's fault that Microsoft is performing illegal tactics. This annoys me to death. But I'm willing to discuss it, if you'd like.

Unfortunately, it seems like you're a representation of the PC community, and I think a fanaticism about a great computer company is much better than a fanaticism about an illegal monopoly who tries to stifle competition.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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And your fanaticism about Microsoft repulses me as well – you say that it's the government's fault that Microsoft is performing illegal tactics. This annoys me to death. But I'm willing to discuss it, if you'd like.

Unfortunately, it seems like you're a representation of the PC community, and I think a fanaticism about a great computer company is much better than a fanaticism about an illegal monopoly who tries to stifle competition.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
I'm not a fanatic about Microsoft, but I do like a few of their products. I love Internet Explorer (but I admit to using Banner Zapper to remove popups and I also think Mozilla is great), I love Outlook Express despite the virus threats, I love Microsoft Frontpage, I love Microsoft Office, I love Microsoft Windows 2000 and I love Windows XP.

But that's just me, I'm a pisces. I tend to love people and things despite their faults. In fact, I share the same birthday as Steve Jobs. Isn't that just curious?

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Old June 20th, 2002, 12:57 AM
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I'm not a fanatic about Microsoft, but I do like a few of their products. I love Internet Explorer (but I admit to using Banner Zapper to remove popups and I also think Mozilla is great), I love Outlook Express despite the virus threats, I love Microsoft Frontpage, I love Microsoft Office, I love Microsoft Windows 2000 and I love Windows XP.

But that's just me, I'm a pisces. I tend to love people and things despite their faults. In fact, I share the same birthday as Steve Jobs. Isn't that just curious?
Microsoft does make some good products, like Microsoft Office X, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express (although I've migrated to Mail.app) and the IntelliMouse Explorer.

That doesn't excuse the fact that Microsoft is performing illegal tactics, though, does it?

So your birthday is February 22, if I remember correctly. Correct? That is curious, though.
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Microsoft does make some good products, like Microsoft Office X, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express (although I've migrated to Mail.app) and the IntelliMouse Explorer.

That doesn't excuse the fact that Microsoft is performing illegal tactics, though, does it?

So your birthday is February 22, if I remember correctly. Correct? That is curious, though.
No, of course nothing excuses Microsoft performing illegal tactics. I'm just trying to turn a negative into a positive. It's my way of thinking.

My birthday is February 24th actually. What I find funny actually is while I was watching Pirates of Silicon Valley, I was with my friend who is in every single way a carbon copy of Steve Wozniak. The entire time I was watching the movie, I kept thinking that Jobs was one hell of a jerk and damn mean to his employees. When the movie was over, I told my friend 'man, I bet you Jobs is an Aries, he's an uncontrollable monster!'

When I found out I was born on the same day, I had the shock of my life but it suddenly made sense. I can't imagine myself acting differently than Jobs in any respect if I was in his position. However, I'm at the other end and I wish he'd make a few small modifications.

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