Windows "Borrowing" Dock from OS X

**doofy10** · June 18th, 2002, 11:43 AM

The next generation of Windows will include what is called a "task-shelf." The new Windows operating system is code named "Longhorn." The borrowed dock-styled "task-shelf" will enable the Windows user to minimizes windows, doucments, and any other file to the bar on the left. When the window is minimized or brought back to the desktop, a genie-like effect is used. There are also many translucent similarities between "Longhorn" and OS X. See it for your self at:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rn_preview.asp

And for a video of it in action:
http://msbetas.net/longhorn/files/longhorn.zip
-Doofy

**satanicpoptart** · June 18th, 2002, 11:59 AM

bastards, they need to get some of their own ideas for an operating system.

**hazmat** · June 18th, 2002, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by satanicpoptart
bastards, they need to get some of their own ideas for an operating system.

Imitation is the best form of flattery. ;-)

**~~NeYo~~** · June 18th, 2002, 12:16 PM

LOL! you guys Typically Jump on the "bandwagon", have you watched the Clip?! It's still a taskbar, merely Docked to the left, and Stretched to make it more visible, this can be done with the current Taskbar! That to can Contain minimized windows, Applications and other stuff, so thats nothing new! ...And this Genie effect?! Well, the taskbar already have an effect, for when Windows Minimize, so its not that much of a Development, Especially if you were a PC User, and knew of Stardocks "Windows FX 2.0 Alpha" Which Offer's a host of effects such as Shadowing, amongst a host of other neat things like minimizing effects!

UNLESS Either Apple or Microsoft, take a HUGE Step forward, there will ALWAY be simularities between the OS's, something neither can help!

NeYo

/edit ...Just to let you guys know, the Current Taskbar now Can Actually have Applications Running INSIDE the taskbar itself! Accompany some of the "Longhorn" themes, you may see Windows Messenger Buddy List Displayed inside, or Notepad for Example! ...it appears the Taskbar is becoming more and more useful, all the time!

**azosx** · June 18th, 2002, 01:07 PM

Windows 2000 has transparency built into the GUI, it just isn't implemented by MS. They released a utility called TweakUI which allows you to enable it. People can actually write apps for 2000 or XP to take advantage of this as well but tend not to. OS X is based heavily on the NeXT OS GUI, where your beloved Dock came from among other things and built around FreeBSD 3.2. Why isn't anybody crying for Apple to get their own ideas for an OS?

Almost everything borrows design cues from another source today. Cars, movies, buildings, music and so on all do.

One reason MS hasn't changed their GUI much since Windows 95 is that it is important for people to feel familiar with their product and beable to identify it by just a glance, this is a great strength. There was an outcry by the Mac community when OS X was released. People were pleading with Apple to make it more like OS 9 and in some ways, Apple complied in 10.1 and even more so in Jaguar.

**ccuilla** · June 18th, 2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by azosx
OS X is based heavily on the NeXT OS GUI, where your beloved Dock came from among other things and built around FreeBSD 3.2. Why isn't anybody crying for Apple to get their own ideas for an OS?

Perhaps because Apple BOUGHT NEXTSTEP. And because OS X IS NEXTSTEP. Mac OS X has almost nothing to do with the "Mac OS" as it is traditionally know. Mac OS X is NEXTSTEP 5.0.

One reason MS hasn't changed their GUI much since Windows 95 is that it is important for people to feel familiar with their product and beable to identify it by just a glance, this is a great strength. There was an outcry by the Mac community when OS X was released. People were pleading with Apple to make it more like OS 9 and in some ways, Apple complied in 10.1 and even more so in Jaguar.

Yet they DO change their UI. Almost all the time. I think more so than Apple (though X is a big change for 9 users). And for non-obvious reasons.

**hazmat** · June 18th, 2002, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by azosx
Windows 2000 has transparency built into the GUI, it just isn't implemented by MS. They released a utility called TweakUI which allows you to enable it. People can actually write apps for 2000 or XP to take advantage of this as well but tend not to. OS X is based heavily on the NeXT OS GUI, where your beloved Dock came from among other things and built around FreeBSD 3.2. Why isn't anybody crying for Apple to get their own ideas for an OS?

DO you mean the menu fading or real transparency? I don't see that in TweakUI. Where is it? And btw, TweakUI has been around since Win95.

Did wonders for it, too.

**voice-** · June 18th, 2002, 03:19 PM

I'm looking forward to this release, my Wintel buddies will go crazy and brag of all the WONDERFUL things Longhorn can do...these will of course be the ones who say Mac OS X Dock suck donkey butt today...

I once tried selling off Fire as a reason to buy a Mac cause it could connect to 5 IMs at the same time, everybody said they would NEVER use an app like that...they came to me a month ago having discovered Trillian and told me of how great it was and that it could connect to several IMs at the same time...
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