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Old July 24th, 2002, 02:40 PM
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if your friend is a student (s)he can get jaguar for $70 at the education discount.

Let me remind some people: You don't have to get jaguar. It is OPTIONAL. (Unlike M$ at times )
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Well, I disagree... 10.2 is awesome and well-worth $129, upgrade or no upgrade.

What about your friend? He assumed that he would get a discounted price? Well, remember that stupid saying, "When you assume, you make an ass out of U and ME?"

So your friend got a new machine that he's happy with, and he's gotta pay $129 for the baddest OS software ever. And he's STILL unhappy? AND -- to top that off, you, a Mac-user, let him purchase a brand-new system right before an Expo?
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hah wouldnt that be funny, and i knew 10.2 was coming too, no i told him not to and he said, and i quote "dont worry me!" and we are high school students, no discount
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First off, get out of Newzworld's shoes-they don't fit you. I doubt that we completely understand his position and we're not in one ourselves to criticize him or his past actions.

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Person 1: Using OS X since public beta:

Mac OS X public beta.... cost: $30
Mac OS X 10.0........... cost: $129 - $30 (coupon from public beta)
Mac OS X 10.1........... cost: Free upgrade.
Mac OS X 10.2........... cost: $129

Let's add that all up. $30 + ($129 - $30) + $129. You have a calculator on your Powerbook G4, no? $30 and -$30 cancel out. So you have $129 + $129. That makes.. what? $258.

Person 2: Using OS X since Mac OS X 10.0:

Mac OS X 10.0........... cost: $129
Mac OS X 10.1........... cost: Free upgrade.
Mac OS X 10.2........... cost: $129

So in this case we still have $129 + $129, or $258.
But say you also want to get .Mac to continue the services that you already bought with Mac OS X. Now you've paid $308. Or, what if you bought Mac OS X but never got around to signing up for iTools? Now you're paying $358. And that's getting mighty close to azosx's number.

And this is why I'm OK with Jaguar. I think that $258 over almost two years is fine (especially towards my favorite company).

But (and I'm sorry I can't find my OS X box to quote from) when I bought OS X, the box said something about 'OS X enhances the internet with iTools,' not 'OS X includes a free trial offer of iTools, and at an undisclosed time we'll kill it and make you pay loads of cash for .Mac.'

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Old July 24th, 2002, 03:47 PM
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First off, get out of Newzworld's shoes-they don't fit you. I doubt that we completely understand his position and we're not in one ourselves to criticize him or his past actions.



But say you also want to get .Mac to continue the services that you already bought with Mac OS X. Now you've paid $308. Or, what if you bought Mac OS X but never got around to signing up for iTools? Now you're paying $358. And that's getting mighty close to azosx's number.

And this is why I'm OK with Jaguar. I think that $258 over almost two years is fine (especially towards my favorite company).

But (and I'm sorry I can't find my OS X box to quote from) when I bought OS X, the box said something about 'OS X enhances the internet with iTools,' not 'OS X includes a free trial offer of iTools, and at an undisclosed time we'll kill it and make you pay loads of cash for .Mac.'

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.Mac/iTools is not something that I am obligated to pay for when buying OS X. OS X is completely functional without .Mac. I prefer to continue my membership to .Mac, however, and so I will fork over the money to do so.

Point being that OS X has not cost near $400, and still will not be anywhere near that number once I get Jaguar. OS X + .Mac will be $308, still nowhere near $400. If I wasn't an iTools member, then it would be $358.. but for OS X AND .Mac.
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Come on guys! If you REALLY like Apple and its products you should go and buy BOTH Jaguar and .Mac without asking/throwing too many questions

At least what you buy, even for the sum of $230, is WORTH every single cent of it unlike many things that we buy in our times (Wintel products anyone?)

Do yourselves a favor and support Apple by buying that Jaguar and dotMac products and even better buy a second or even a third Mac!
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.Mac/iTools is not something that I am obligated to pay for when buying OS X. OS X is completely functional without .Mac. I prefer to continue my membership to .Mac, however, and so I will fork over the money to do so.

Point being that OS X has not cost near $400, and still will not be anywhere near that number once I get Jaguar. OS X + .Mac will be $308, still nowhere near $400. If I wasn't an iTools member, then it would be $358.. but for OS X AND .Mac.
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From the OS X 10.0 Box
Designed for the Internet Age
Built using many of the same technologies that power the Internet itself, Mac OS X gives you the power to get connected faster and easier--and do more when you get there--with best-of-class Internet applications such as Mail, Internet Explorer, and iTools.
iTools is included in OS X just as much as Mail or Internet Explorer is. OS X and iTools are two peas in a pod, two sides of a coin. And I bought that pea pod/coin.
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yikes...I forgot that iTools was on the MacOSX box...

that does make that bad taste in my mouth seem worse...
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