Apple buying SUN

**90X Double Side** · October 4th, 2002, 12:37 AM

Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers

**vanguard** · October 4th, 2002, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by 90X Double Side
Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers

1.3.1 is not "incredibly old", it's commonly used. Apple's impementation of the jvm is amoung the best.

A 1.4 implemetation will be out soon but I don't realy miss it yet.

**jcart12** · October 4th, 2002, 02:15 AM

If you look at the vast majority of dev tools, they are still based on 1.3. Some environments still even use 1.2. Although upgrading the JVM is easy and normally there shouldn't be issues running under a new JRE.

I just wanted to point out that it isn't a hindrance running 1.3.1 for most Java devs. I can still run TomCat, develop JSP and Servlets with no problems. I can even roll out under JVM 1.4 environment. Currently I'm developing using WebMethods under OS X and it isn't even supported by WebMethods. The beauty of Java, all I needed to do was tweek some config files and voila it worked. By the way the window version comes with 1.2 as part of the installer. So there you go if you think 1.3.1 is old.

If you look at the point release information, your often see the differences (excl 1.1 -> 1.2 that's more like OSX 10.1 -> 10.2 diffs) are small, performance related or apply to very specialised areas.

John.

**dave17lax** · October 4th, 2002, 07:44 AM

Apple doesn't need to buy anymore companies for awhile.

**roger** · October 4th, 2002, 07:55 AM

In my particular industry Sun is under pressure because of Linux replacing it.

What would apple want with another UNIX? It would be the hardware that they are after, but they have just brought out the X-Server, which is selling very well.

I am not sure that it would be a great idea - too much market overlap in my opinion. However stranger things have happened.

Would Sun want Apple taking over anyway, with Jobs being on serveral 'worst boards of directors'?

**ccuilla** · October 4th, 2002, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by 90X Double Side
Actually, we don't really have a very useable version of Java; the incredibly old version that comes with Jaguar isn't supported anymore by most developers

Hmmm...I'll try to be polite here....but it is tough. You don't really know what you're talking about, do you?

Java 1.3.1 is not "incredibly" old. And it is still widely used.

Unlike many people that might frequent these boards, not everyone MUST update every version of something the moment it comes out. Working in a coporation as I do, we move much more slowly than that (with good reason I might add). Upgrading to new versions of software (especially Java, on which a lot of our code is built), is a SERIOUS move that may have have SERIOUS ramifications (sometimes negative).

**wiz** · October 5th, 2002, 05:02 PM

how about SUN buying Apple
(thats not possible right now, i know)

but thats cool!

SUN is better, have u ever tried their products.

its like ROCK SOLID!

the only thing they are missing are the UI & Graphics concepts of apple.

**plastic** · October 6th, 2002, 02:55 AM

The POSSIBILITY is there, definitely. Even Dell has mentioned that enterprise business is the way to go to ensure that the company remain profitable.

Apple might be seriously eyeing that share of the pie. Secured servers, reliable and cost effectiveness is an edge is some way. Many cmpanies are tired with dealing with viruses on the Win platform. But can Win users really move out of the platform and rely on Apple?

Enterprise solutions.... can Apple deliver something rock solid and at the same time, maintain their strong foot hold in the creative industry? We will see... buy Sun. They rock! Solaris X server! LOL...