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Old January 15th, 2003, 04:05 AM
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I repeat: to "most people" they present the main alternative. And most people go with the PC option. I realize you yourself might not consider PC:s an option, but that does little to change the fact that "most people" will consider PC:s as a Mac alternative.
not that i didn't like jeb's answer to this, but i felt i needed to add more. why is it that pc users come here and assume we're not aware that we only have a small market share - that we're a minority? could it be because they feel as frustrated as we do in a CompUsa or other so called computer superstore where half the things we want aren't carried or even made for our macs? could it be they suddenly find themselves surrounded by people who love their macs and the only 2 lines of defense they've got are "pc's are faster and cheaper" and "i'm like most people"?

Who's the fastest and cheapest counts for something in a bar on friday nite. and even then their is often a price to be paid for choosing that route. being like "most people" also means your IQ is in the average range and so your abilities to make truly informed decisions are limited.

but then another problem is us - mac users. we tend to shorten windows' user to pc user, when in fact there are some pc users who feel as disgusted with m$ as we do. But that is only natural, because let's face it, what terminal jockeys would waste their time making comparisons like the one in the article? so when ever we see pc speed claims, we're eally talking about windows' users who feel they've got to justify their choice to be like "most people". Cause the ones who would go thru all this are most likely smart enought to know that there's more to it than that, but admiting it is hard.especially if you're still paying off your credit card for all your m$ updates of XP and office.Add in the windows version of photoshop and you've already spent more than a new mac that would have solved all those other problems besides speed.

but back to being mac users in a computer store - i used to get really mad whenever i was faced with seeing lots of peripherals for pc's at half the price of the same things for macs. but eventually i realized that anybody could make a piece of crap piece of hardware and sell it. Having a mac helps reduce the chance i'll make a poor purchase decision. it doesn't eliminate it, but it reduces it. i would really like to see a set of compatibility to peripheral devices for these computers. there's still a lot to be said for 'plug and play' vs 'plug and pray' besides just saving xmas.

but jeb, i wonder if you didn't open up a whole new door of advertising for Alienware with the observation of removing leg hairs. my GF might want one of those. It would be a whole new way to multitask
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Old January 15th, 2003, 04:57 AM
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Who's the fastest and cheapest counts for something in a bar on friday nite. and even then their is often a price to be paid for choosing that route.
lol!

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but jeb, i wonder if you didn't open up a whole new door of advertising for Alienware with the observation of removing leg hairs. my GF might want one of those. It would be a whole new way to multitask
LOL!!!! That would make for a great advertizing campaign! Picture Lubriderm-like commercial pitting Alienware vs. Crocodile for beautiful woman.




*virtually quoting Ed's post in entirety*
Amen to that brother! Can we get that whole post embossed, framed and hung next to the site rules or something?
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Re: Re: Re: Bad bad bad PC user! :)

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Actually, they were all compared to each other, simply by the layout of the data as well as in the discussion.
True, but the top-end Mac vs. PC faceoff is between the G4 Dual 1.25 GHz and the Alienware 3.06 GHz P4, which I guess is what matters to most professionals in this context. That he threw the old Dell and PB in there, well, might be interesting for second-hand buyers, who knows...

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Oops....um....sorry. Sorry! I have no idea how I messed up on that one! Thanks for the correction. Maybe it's 'cause I was reading sideways on my bed since my PowerBook is so portable.

But you're wrong about it not beating the Dell!! It won in one category! See if you can find it -- it'll be like Where's Waldo in a column!
Whoopse! Missed the preview test, despite it being right on top... doh...

Edit: Well, I did say "beat the alienware"=P

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That's it huh? Battery life is all the powerbook has going for it huh? How about half the volume, 2/3 the weight, a much larger screen, Firewire 800, Gigabit ethernet, integrated WiFi and a Superdrive?
Erm, no - I said it's "one thing" it's got going for it - all the other stuff obviously come into play as well. All in all, Apple makes great laptops - it's the Desktop side that is hurting at the moment, imho.

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The masses (including me) have short attention spans and a lack of information. It you're gonna write an article for them and want to be truly helpful you need at-a-glance summaries (or mentions, at least) of the other things going into computers too or else they'll just latch onto those speed numbers and end up with a computer that helps them not be able to do what they want to do more quickly, near power outlets, with no hair left on their legs, no fashion sense and a sore shoulder .
Well, it's not really for "the masses" - it's for pro photographers. And the author does mention other factors down in the comments section, but they aren't all favourable to the mac... Read it - it's a good, clean discussion.

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Erm, no - I said it's "one thing" it's got going for it - all the other stuff obviously come into play as well. All in all, Apple makes great laptops - it's the Desktop side that is hurting at the moment, imho.

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"Who's the fastest and cheapest counts for something in a bar on friday nite. and even then their is often a price to be paid for choosing that route. being like "most people" also means your IQ is in the average range and so your abilities to make truly informed decisions are limited. "

The 90-95% of computer users who use Wintels most likely contain both some really stupid and really smart people - sort of the 5% that owns Mac:s. In my case, I like to play games on my 'puter once in a while, (BF 1942... yumm!), which makes the PC the only viable option. If (when) I get a productivity laptop though, I'll most likely go with the Mac (That's why I spent an hour looking at this year's keynote - plus it's good fun =P) - it's also the reason I've been lurking on this board for a while.

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