Apple is still behind HP and Dell...

[Sunnz]

In terms of environmental waste management?

http://www.greenmyapple.com/about.html

That kind of surprise me!! But again I am still new to the Mac I guess...

[ElDiabloConCaca]

Eh, environmentally-friendly products just can't attain that Apple level of cool, though... You gotta destroy the environment in order to be that damn cool.

[Sunnz]

That is really getting on my nerve... I was born in Asia, and now brought a computer from a company that is potentially harming billions of people of where I came from...

I mean, we are getting the best of everything just to have someone else to suffer??

[jpb5151]

It's all moot; Apple products are just too cute to throw out anyhow. I've still got a Tangerine in the basement, and there are people who have super-old Macs hanging around. No need for Greenpeace to worry.

edit: The Greenpeace site seems very vague about the hazards in Apple products and about any data showing their effects. PVC is mentioned (isn't it the plasticizing additives and not PVC per se that's harmful?) but little else. How many people have been harmed? iotw, and I don't mean disrespect towards Greenpeace, but why should I believe them?

[ElDiabloConCaca]

From what I hear, though, Greenpeace is inflating claims and blowing certain things out of proportion concerning Apple's disregard for the environment. Apple has taken steps to try and lessen their impact on the environment -- but Greenpeace will never be satisfied and will continue to bash and berate companies who don't have 99% clean "emissions."

I hate to say so, but it seems these days that Greenpeace has lost their grassroots ties and do most of their bitching just for lobbying purposes. They blow stuff out of proportion consistently.

http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-6110513.html
http://news.com.com/5208-1014-0.html...79031&start=-1

[jpb5151]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloConCaca

From what I hear, though,

Dude, I should have read your post instead of editing mine.

[eric2006]

You should look for multiple sources before you condemn Apple for their environmental practices..

It's true that they don't have perfect environmental practices, and that's not good. However, Apple is doing a lot less damage than Dell, HP, etc, having less than 10% of the computer market. They're improving though (in both ways).

I'm surprised that Apple hasn't sued the makers of that site, they ripped off quite a bit of apple media..

[Sunnz]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloConCaca

From what I hear, though, Greenpeace is inflating claims and blowing certain things out of proportion concerning Apple's disregard for the environment. Apple has taken steps to try and lessen their impact on the environment -- but Greenpeace will never be satisfied and will continue to bash and berate companies who don't have 99% clean "emissions."

I hate to say so, but it seems these days that Greenpeace has lost their grassroots ties and do most of their bitching just for lobbying purposes. They blow stuff out of proportion consistently.

http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-6110513.html
http://news.com.com/5208-1014-0.html...79031&start=-1

Well ok... but are greenpeace right about how Apple is still behind HP/Dell as far as substance/waste/environmental goes?