Cons of iPhone and Apple TV

[Ferdinand]

By me that doesnt work, it makes that low "beep" sound like it always does when somethings wrong - but ok...

... well at least copy - paste works

[brianleahy]

Tragic but true, no 3rd-party apps for iPhone:

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/12/0430200.shtml

Which frankly takes it right off my wish list. I have an iPod, I have a phone; I have minimal interest in merging them. A pocket Mac, on the other hand, would rock -- but one that only does stuff Jobs already thought of is no good.

[g/re/p]

Originally Posted by chevy

The worst thing in the iPhone is its name. "iPhone"... bleark. iPod would be much better !

How about "iLisa" -

[brianleahy]

They could call it the Phone...

[Ferdinand]

Not a bad idea... they call it TV, so why not Phone ?

Why AppleTV but no Apple Phone? They're not thinking as logically as they used to (for example the 4 grid thing at the iBook introduction).

[Trip]

First people beg to get a new piece of technology, god forbig a mobile phone from Apple. Then, Apple gives the people what they want. And what do they do? Complain about it.

I know that I will be getting an iPhone come time, and I will be using Cingular (proudly), and I will be happy.

[Mikuro]

Originally Posted by brianleahy

Tragic but true, no 3rd-party apps for iPhone:

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/12/0430200.shtml

Which frankly takes it right off my wish list. I have an iPod, I have a phone; I have minimal interest in merging them. A pocket Mac, on the other hand, would rock -- but one that only does stuff Jobs already thought of is no good.

Jobs' quotes there are sheer rhetoric.

"These are devices that need to work, and you can't do that if you load any software on them."
Umm...Macs work, and 90% of the software I use is third-party (probably more, really). PDAs work. Other phones with third-party apps work. If Apple can't make this work with third-party apps when it's based on OS X, then Apple's just not trying.

"Cingular doesn’t want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up."
So they should restrict some of the APIs. You know, the way they do with the window manager in OS X, and any number of other things. If I had a dime for every API in OS X that Apple kept away from third-party developers.....

And I can't help but notice that the Internet doesn't magically disappear every time someone's web browser crashes...

[ebykm]

anything starts with "i" seems outdated these days. I'd say my new mac with 24" screen .

as for the phone,
1, only 2mp camera, what a shame...... sony, samsung ship their phones with 3.2mp cameras.
2, why only one camera..... you need a cam on the front if you are to use ichat or 3G.
3, atleast a 30gig storage would be better.

AppleTV,
1, why not make something that will play every format that your mac can play. e.g not only itunes/quicktime, but divx, wma, etc..... + mac screen to TV (i'd love to play mac games on TV).