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Old April 13th, 2007, 08:59 AM
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I don't agree with the people who say Tiger is good enough. In many ways, Tiger was like a downgrade from Panther. It really needs polish. As for Leopard's new features, I don't know. After being so disappointed by Tiger, which sounded like a freakin' awesome upgrade before it was released, I can't get excited over things like Spaces or Time Machine. If they're implemented well, they'll be very nice, but it's all in the implementation, and there's no way to know about that until I get to use it (and I don't have faith in Apple to do things right anymore). Again I point to Spotlight; it could've changed the way I use computers, but instead it just gets in my way and makes previously-simple tasks a chore.

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At least they've now jumped from brushed metal to unified look in the latest build. That's _something_, isn't it. I'm happy 'bout that.
Interesting. Visually, I think this is good. They've even unified the two "unified" types. (The fact that that sentence even makes sense is proof that Tiger is a mess. ) Now it seems that active windows appear dark (à la iTunes 7), while background windows appear light (à la Mail 2). Contrast is good. A big problem with iTunes 7 and brushed metal is that the windows look almost identical in the two modes. I'm also glad to see the rest of iTunes 7's interface (the custom scroll bar style, for example) has not been adopted, because that's all ugly, IMHO. Ugly like Windows.

On the other hand, I think the dark-unified look is too dark for system-wide use, and generally the ugliest of the bunch. The new look in the screenshots may be visually useful, but it's not visually pleasing. System Preferences, for instance, just looks silly in those screenshots. There's still time for that to be fine-tuned, though. Fingers crossed!

Functionally, I still prefer aqua. I really can't understand why they think being able to drag a window from any empty space is a good thing. I'm always dragging metal/unified windows by mistake because I miss a button by a few pixels. Oh well. (If you really want dragging flexibility, bring back platinum-style window borders! )

I wish they'd just stick with aqua and forget about all these other types, but as long as it's consistent, I can respect it.

Does anyone know if aqua has been dumped in this latest build? Looks like it might have been, but then again, all the apps shown in those screenshots used unified or brushed metal to begin with.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 10:56 AM
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where's this latest build source?
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Old April 13th, 2007, 11:18 AM
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I've just tried UNO, very good piece of software !
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Old April 13th, 2007, 11:42 AM
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The last inconsitency is that Mail has rounded buttons while Safari has rounded rectangle buttons.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 01:34 PM
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By the way, Mac Rumors is carrying an article that mentions the delay to Leopard. They don't really say much new, but do say:

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A delay until October was actually predicted in a Page 2 rumor by DigiTimes. While Apple has claimed more broadly that the delay was due to a shift in resources to the iPhone project, DigiTimes said that the delay would be due to Apple's plan to "have its new OS support Windows Vista through an integrated version of Boot Camp."

While Apple has long-claimed that Boot Camp will ship with Leopard, and the latest version of the Boot Camp public beta did incorporate Windows Vista support, DigiTimes was careful to refer to an "integrated version" of Boot Camp in their story. This specificity was noted by Arn in a blog posting on the matter, suggesting that "integrated" Boot Camp might be something closer to Parallels virtualization.

None of Leopard's "Top Secret" features have yet to leak from Apple. However, this integrated version of Boot Camp which has yet to be seen in previous developer builds may point to one such feature.

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It could be Apple has plans to make Leopard more "Windows compatible," in a sense, and that this has posed one of the bigger problems in development.

In addition, I remember the iPhone on display didn't have all the features working yet. So it could also/instead be that the iPhone was/is behind schedule, and resources have been diverted to it as a priority in order to meet the release date. The iPhone has caught the media's imagination and there are probably more potential iPhone-converts than Mac-converts, so a slippage of the iPhone release date might be more noticeable.
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Well things happen and I am starting to think about the next few months and this announcement. I would not be surprised if Apple discounts the current retail version of Tiger and announce every computer a Leopard reduced rate rate upgrade after WWDC.
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The one thing that annoys me, is I was hoping to get it before school started, now I have to wait after.
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