Apple's Competition to upcoming Microsoft "Vienna"

[zynizen]

this link illustrates codename "blackcomb", a further release with better technology than vista to be released in late 2009..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22

any idea what Apple is doing to future releases of OSX and the way you compute? I know Leopard is going to be advanced, but, more less the same OS as Tiger, with revamped code and newer apps, that do more things..

any comments on this article on wiki would be great, any sources or rumours?

I know apple has been doing business with samsung to get flash SSD in their future releases of laptops.. flash storage will be the end of boot times as there are no moving parts!

post your comments! *AFTER* reviewing the article above!

[Timotheos]

Thats a pretty funny wikipedia page...

Did anyone find the whole 'development' section strange? Its as if they come up with these concepts.. 'Whistler', 'Longhorn', 'Blackcomb', ,Vienna, and the amazing 'Vista' without actually having any idea what they are actually going to produce. Actually I would even go to say that it sounds like they create these names without actually having an idea or concept behind the name then just go... hmm lets say we will realease this one in 2009 shall we?

I would love to go to a meeting with the top cheifs when they are brainstorming this stuff just to give myself reasurrance that they do actually think about the product they are designing.

Another thing that cracked me up was this...

"For instance, the "Start" philosophy, introduced in Windows 95, may be replaced by the "new interface" which was said in 1999 to be scheduled for "Vienna"."

What the hell? They planned to get rid of that menu 8 years ago? I allways hear things about a new UI but theres no sign of them introducing anything, but dear god I hope they do. If they somehow manage a release by '09 with a new and well designed GUI, I will be surely amazed. Im sure will all would be amazed.

As for Apple. I really dont mind the GUI at the moment, aslong as they keep streamlineing the OS in general i'll be content. Thats unless windows brings out something better, thats when I will be wanting something new. Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt say no to a new and well designed GUI tomorrow. It wouldnt (well it would slightly, I guess) suprise me if we did get a new GUI in June.

[Viro]

How do you compete with vaporware?

[zynizen]

I think billy has his head in the clouds a bit too long from the background screen of win95... don't you think? lol

I think they have lost all marbles, and even if the release of a new GUI in a new OS .. IS... revolutionizing.. don't you think apple would be aware of this..

the further enhancement of the iPhone touchscreen technology, could actually change the way we use the computer. for instance, instead of a normal keyboard typing unit, we could have a digital screen, that you can customize just like your background, like a coloured touching unit or something..

if you check out the preview for leopard server, it gets little GUI enhancement, so to comment on the leopard ui, i think it too has slight upgrades!

[Lt Major Burns]

Originally Posted by zynizen

I think billy has his head in the clouds a bit too long from the background screen of win95... don't you think? lol

I think they have lost all marbles, and even if the release of a new GUI in a new OS .. IS... revolutionizing.. don't you think apple would be aware of this..

the further enhancement of the iPhone touchscreen technology, could actually change the way we use the computer. for instance, instead of a normal keyboard typing unit, we could have a digital screen, that you can customize just like your background, like a coloured touching unit or something..

if you check out the preview for leopard server, it gets little GUI enhancement, so to comment on the leopard ui, i think it too has slight upgrades!

Multitouch's potential goes much deeper than replicating a physical keyboard on a screen. it's about removing the limitations of a single clumsy detatched pointing device.

it's about going in there and manipulating everything on screen at once. imagine music production, where you can move any amount of knobs at once, or image manipulation, where you can move HSB sliders dynamically with your hands. Command and Conquer with the ability to move the camera dynamically while at the same time picking and dropping troops where you want them to go. or whatever, the more you think about it, the more the possiblities seem to go on and on....

if the industry doesn't adopt multitouch as the next standard, i'll be very disappointed.

[chevy]

I agree with Lt: the GUI will soon see very dramatic evolutions. The WII was the first real evolution of the century, others are coming.

[Mikuro]

Apple's put themselves in a very good position with OS X. They don't need to create a revolution for every little thing. They had one revolution — OS X — and now everything is smooth sailing. Microsoft just won't commit to a full revolution, and the result is that every little thing they do is hard. All that work on Vista, for what?

Apple is already moving, slowly and steadily, to a "new era" of UI design. They can do this in OS X, again, because OS X was built future-proof. The first signs of Apple's direction are already here: Front Row, Time Machine, Cover Flow, and also the iPhone's touch screen, just to name a few.

Now, I'm not saying Apple's making all the right decisions — I'm sure I've ranted here about exactly what I hate about Apple's new philosophy — but the point is, Apple is not standing still. They're also not lumbering along in feverish spurts and stops like Microsoft. They're moving ahead smoothly.

So when I hear vague hints that Microsoft is doing something big, I'm really not impressed. In 2009, we'll probably be getting OS 10.6. It'll take more than the mere idea of removing the Start menu to make me think Microsoft has something special going.

Originally Posted by Lt Major Burns

if the industry doesn't adopt multitouch as the next standard, i'll be very disappointed.

Agreed.

[fryke]

Multitouch on trackpads, maybe? I mean: We already have the ability to use two fingers on our trackpads to scroll etc. - why not the squeezing stuff? I'm still not sure whether we'll really be using touchscreens on both desktop and notebook computers by Apple very soon. It makes sense on a handheld, though.