10.5 First impressions - post yours

**Giaguara** · #1 October 25th, 2007, 03:27 PM

Time for it now that it'll go public ...
Your first thoughts and impressions using it - post your.

1. iTunesque look all over ...
So how do I get rid of the blue left pane and the stripes in Finder and everywhere else? Shouldn't "Graphite" appearance do this logically?
I guess time to wait for Uno to update to fix this...
(I don't like that light blue)

2. How do I get the dock usable?
3D of which the +1D adds no data, and the black triangles replaced with dots aren't clear when using the dock in small scale.
Of course, could always get the dock back to 2D

Code:

$ defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES; killall Dock

but that will still leave the white dots there.
Using it on the left pane works a bit better...
I guess the 10.5 dock looks better, when you have a 30" cinema display, and want to closely observe the dock. But I want it small, without magnifying effects, with any background, and to not pay too much attention to the tiny dots or the lack of them.
Perhaps would be time to get a setting for Universal Access to make an easy to see dock...

**Captain Code** · #2 October 25th, 2007, 04:45 PM

Do people who pre-ordered Leopard have it yet? I have the developer build but I'm not sure I can really say much yet even though it's only about 1 day away until the official "launch".

andyhargreaves · #3 October 25th, 2007, 05:24 PM

I'm not talking to anyone about Leopard. My macbook had to go into the Apple store today for a little warranty work doing - I was back home and it was too late to ask for it back when I realised why the date was so familiar...

macbri · #4 October 25th, 2007, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Code

Do people who pre-ordered Leopard have it yet? I have the developer build but I'm not sure I can really say much yet even though it's only about 1 day away until the official "launch".

I saw on macosxhints.com they reported the NDA limits had been lifted or something... ahh here it is. Can anyone confirm?

Not that we have to wait much longer anyway, so a bit of a moot point I guess.

DarkSorrow · #5 October 25th, 2007, 11:36 PM

May i ask, what NDA?

eric2006 · #6 October 25th, 2007, 11:44 PM

Non-disclosure agreement: in a nutshell, developers get advanced releases of Leopard, but they sign a contract that prohibits them from disclosing features of the release.

BikerRob · #7 October 25th, 2007, 11:45 PM

All kinds of people have already received their copies in the mail, and many sites are already talking about it, so I'm sure you're in the clear!

**Captain Code** · #8 October 26th, 2007, 07:44 AM

Ok, well now it's Friday, it's gotta be ok for sure

First a mini rant.
Time Machine doesn't work with network drives over AFP. It worked as far back as WWDC07 preview build, but they pulled it. It worked, but had many bugs back then.

The way it was supposed to work over a network is that Time Machine creates a sparse disk image on the network drive. Then that disk image acts as the backup drive. However, in the beta builds, it kept getting corrupted and Time Machine wouldn't work for a few days. Then it would seem to reset the image and start working again.

I'm sure they pulled the network backup because of this, but I hope it comes back soon with 10.5.1 or 10.5.2

There's still a few problems with hanging network shares. If I forget to unmount a network share when I leave the house, when I get to where ever I'm going and open the computer, the login window takes a long time to show up. The time out is not as bad as it was with Tiger, ie. it doesn't take as long for the computer to recognize that network shares aren't there anymore. Indeed, the Finder is a lot better with this but the login widow is a little buggy still.

Specifically, yesterday I forgot to unmount 2 shares and when I tried to login, I got the spinning beach ball of death and had to do a hard shutdown by holding the power button on my MBP.

Pros:
Installing was fast. I did an archive and install from 9a559(couldn't do any upgrade, but I didn't want to). All my applications were copied over from the previous system folder to the new /Applications automatically by the installer. It also copied over /Library/Application Support so pretty much every application worked without reinstalling. I haven't come across anything that needs reinstalling yet, unlike in the previous builds of Leopard.

Mail.app is much faster. It seems each account's network access is in a separate thread. I'm not sure if this was the case with Tiger but in any case, Mail is more multithreaded than before. The windows and menus seem to be in separate threads because back at the WWDC 07 build there were some issues with not loading parts of the windows but other parts would still function.

Applications seem less buggy to me than with Tiger. I can't recall Safari ever crashing.

Spotlight is blazingly fast. No more waiting around for it to find your search results. Works great as a program launcher. Works as a rudimentary 4 function calculator. No square root or anything that I've found, but +,-,*,/ work. It has more powerful searches which I've not used yet.
It doesn't search within words in a file name. That is if you have "Adobe Photoshop CS3.app" on your hard drive, typing in "shop" won't find it. Typing in "Pho" is enough to find it on my computer.

More to come later.