Apple Movie Rentals - BAD IDEA!

imacg5guy · #1 January 19th, 2008, 03:20 PM

EXTREMELY BAD IDEA! its like buying a movie for a couple of quid... a brand new movie, for about what - a pound - (or its like $2 for US) simply, you just get some screen recording software and record the movie, unlike when you go to blockbusters you phoned, emailed you get letters through the post for overdue films or what ever, but how apple suppose to know that your screen recording the movie! its to obvious for Apple to miss!

**ScottW** · #2 January 19th, 2008, 03:41 PM

HUH?

I don't get your point. Whats the difference between screen recording and ripping a DVD? Should auto makers not make cars, since they might wreck or someone will die? Should guns not be made, because they kill people?

If people are going to copy, they are going to copy. Apple didn't miss anything. It's the movie companies that take the risk, not Apple.

imacg5guy · #3 January 19th, 2008, 03:46 PM

well... its copy right... a dummy could do it, whilst unlocking a DVD is pretty hard!you gotta pay for some software to unlock the DVD, but, with movie rentals, download a screen capturing software and it does it - EASY, i suppose apple did take the risk...

Mikuro · #4 January 19th, 2008, 04:14 PM

Copying a DVD is much easier than using screen-capture tools. There are plenty of free ones, too (and the decent screen capture tools all cost money, anyway). With screen capture tools, you cannot reproduce the frame rate perfectly, and it requires a lot of CPU power, so unless you have a fast system you probably couldn't do it without having the video skip frames. Also, you can't rip the stream directly, you have to convert it (causing quality loss). With DVDs, all it takes is a few clicks to get a perfect copy. You can convert it if you want, but you don't need to.

Apple didn't miss anything here. This is much better for the studios than DVDs.

lbj · #5 January 19th, 2008, 07:41 PM

Where is Apple's risk?

icemanjc · #6 January 19th, 2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imacg5guy

well... its copy right... a dummy could do it, whilst unlocking a DVD is pretty hard!you gotta pay for some software to unlock the DVD, but, with movie rentals, download a screen capturing software and it does it - EASY, i suppose apple did take the risk...

Simple, I don't have the time to start and stop the screen capture. It's inconvenient, to edit down what the movie will be.

My opinion for Rentals is, Apple will rule with rentals, till Netflix releases the player for windows, since they have unlimited online watching of movies.

**chevy** · #7 January 20th, 2008, 03:59 AM

iTunes also have unlimited free radios, this doesn't hurt the iTMS business.

Apple could add free TV channels in addition to the free podcasts on the AppleTV without a risk.

**Captain Code** · #8 January 20th, 2008, 10:22 AM

You can't screen record a DVD using Apple's DVD player, they don't let you. It's possible they will do this with iTunes rentals as well. Either way, I don't get the whole point of your post. There's always ways around DRM no matter what the companies try. It's legal here in Canada to rip DVDs BTW if you own them, it's fair use. It's simple and takes 5 mins or less to start the ripping if you have done it before. And it is faster than real time. This does not really have any big impact on the DVD rental business because the 4 rental places in my town are doing just fine.

I think renting a DVD and ripping it, thus getting a movie for only a few dollars, is actually much easier than trying to record your screen. With screen recording you need a very fast hard drive to capture at 30 frames per second and it takes the entire length of the movie to record it. Out of the two options, ripping off rented DVDs or ripping off rented iTunes movies, DVDs would actually be much easier.