10.5.2

[Mikuro]

Originally Posted by bbloke

I don't know what to make of this. You've thought ahead and been more thorough about the comparison, so I'm open to being wrong about this. That said, it was something that I wasn't looking out for, I simply played with the update and instantly thought the transparency had changed. When using a few menus, the "blurry" feel to them seemed to have gone in favor of a much lesser level of transparency. That was my instant reaction, at least! My experience of 10.5.2 is with a MacBook Pro (NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics card), I don't know if experiences will vary according to hardware.

I don't think you're wrong about the menus, seeing as you noticed it on your own and Apple says there is a difference. I just wonder why I'm not getting it. I get the same result now after I installed the graphics update, too. *shrug*

Speaking of which, does anyone have any details about what this graphics update actually does? Apple's description is very vague.

For me, the smoothness of Spaces was very noticeable. Thinking about it, I should clarify: the difference in performance relates to zooming out to view all Spaces at once, not simply moving between individual Spaces with keystrokes. Again, this might be down to differences in hardware, but I use Spaces a lot and had always felt the animation juddered but now it seems very smooth.

Yeah, I notice an improvement there, too. I don't use that mode very often, though, so I can't say for sure what kind of difference there was, but I remember it being choppy and now it's fairly smooth. I ALSO notice a difference in keyboard-controlled switching, which I use much more. It seems smoother than it used to be, too.

[bbloke]

Originally Posted by CaribbeanOS-X

bbloke: i think i had a similar issue. as i rapidly flip from program to program and arrive at a input field... i quickly enter, say my email... and when i look up the first letter is missing.

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Is that what your MB PRO is doing? I have a MacBook, 10.4.11, 2 gig RAM etc... the thing preforms like a thoroughbred 99% of the time. However, I built a clean install a few weeks ago and the issue is gone!

Hi CaribbeanOS-X,

Your experience sounds similar to what I have encountered. I bought a MacBook Pro over the summer (running Tiger) and noticed that the first letter would be missing occasionally, right after I started typing. This might be particularly the case when typing in a field when browsing the web, and that sort of thing. I put it down to not having adjusted to a laptop keyboard yet!

I upgraded to Leopard some weeks after it was released and, by that time, I was more convinced it was not the case that I was unfamiliar with the keyboard. The same phenomenon occurred under Leopard. I started looking around on forums, particularly Apple's own discussion pages, and found this is a widespread issue that has been driving people crazy!

The first letter tends to only not appear if they keyboard has been inactive for some time. It doesn't seem to miss random letters or freeze up, and the trackpad is fine. Once I've started typing and don't stop for long periods, the letters seem to show up appropriately. I started to think it is almost as if the keyboard goes to sleep when not used for a bit, and the first key press wakes it! Someone else made a similar comment concerning the USB bus going to sleep, and how it could be overly-aggressive power management. While some had said the problem occurs when using Windows via Boot Camp, more had said that it didn't occur within Windows, so that gave me more hope that it is software-related.

Fingers crossed...

[bbloke]

Originally Posted by alra111

I didn't notice iTunes mentioned specifically, but I hope they fix its constant freeze-ups soon. I will probably go and import a CD at some point today to see if there's any improvements in that area.

I would expect this would be a separate iTunes update, if there was a known issue. I have to say that I haven't been experiencing these problems with iTunes, though. MacFixit has an article about iTunes freezing up, though, so you might want to look at that. They direct readers to Apple's Knowledge Base article on the subject. Good luck!

[Satcomer]

Originally Posted by RGrphc2

Anyone else having a problem running CS3 with Linotype running? Also my Dock "crashes" when i try any other view other than List View.

Ran the Combo updater twice.

Well Linotype FontExplorer X - 1.2.3 was updated after 10.5.2. Did it help?

[sgould]

Originally Posted by Satcomer

Well it looks like some people are confused at the size of the delta update. We;; after thinking and talking with friends I have come to a conclusion. If you did an original update to 10.5.0 from Tiger you were given the 'Combo' 10.5.2 (384 MB). If you did a fresh install Apple gave you just the Delta 10.5.2 update (184MB).

Either that or some of the many servers were just giving out the Combo update by mistake, or maybe it was by design in some countries. I just guessing.

I'm in UK and saw the original post quoting the Combo as 343MB. I checked the Software update and was offered a 341MB update. So I installed the Combo!!

This install is on a new black MacBook that I've had for three weeks. It came with 10.5.0 installed, which I upgraded to 10.5.1 before I started using it. So this machine has never seen Tiger.

[RGrphc2]

yep

[Satcomer]

Originally Posted by RGrphc2

yep

Well thinking about your Dock, have you tried to through out the Dock preferences to fix it?

[RGrphc2]

They yep was to the upgrade to Linotype 1.2.3 it fixed the problem. A few people on creativebits, apple, and linotype disscussion boards had the same exact thing running Linotype.

I stopped running FontExplorer and it worked fine Really amazing those developers at Linotype, not even a day and they fixed the problem.