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Old August 24th, 2003, 10:48 PM
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Old August 25th, 2003, 01:21 AM
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From that post, you sound a lot more anti-Microsoft than pro-Apple. You mention Microsoft 3 times and Apple none, besides the last sentence. What I'm wondering is how your arguments don't support the idea that the 95% marketshare gets 95% of the viruses.

It's funny how Windows has 5 steps to activate a firewall, while OS X has only one for each firewall you want to activate: click a check box. Or, alternatively, push the Start button.

Imagine if someone hacked Microsoft's website (which probably wouldn't be that hard, since I'm sure they use Windows servers) and installed a new "patch" that completely broke Windows. They could take control of any computer connected to the Internet, or steal all sorts of data. That would herald very bad for Microsoft if this were perceived as a "critical update."
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Old August 25th, 2003, 06:34 AM
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actually i no longer have a pc, but nice try with the facetious comments anyways guys

its called taking protective measures, sure the average joe doesnt know what the hell he's doing, but it doesnt mean that anyone with a bit of common sense to them cant have a working windows

and IIRC MS did seem to come out on top in the early OS wars.... dont see a whole lot of amiga around anymore

in any case, i still think that MS gets an unnecessary bad wrap, its HAS to work with ALL hardware made, plain and simple. It HAS to have absolutely no security flaws. Or other wise, it sucks. Obviously, they are failing both those... its like this:

if you have 1000 people trying to find a way into a house or 1 person trying to find a way into a house, which do you think will be more successful?

anyways, im still one of the few here that is bi-OSexual
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Old August 25th, 2003, 07:28 AM
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It's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike that. If windows fails to do the two things you mention (support all & no security flaws), I think it is simply in the wrong position. By whom was it put there? By its own ambition to make most money possible and by the marketing/brainwashed users. If windows has all of these apparent flaws, then it shouldn't be on millions of desktops. If it endeavours to be on them and if it claims to fullfill your compatibility and security requirements, but in fact fails, then it deserves to be criticised. People pay A LOT of money for the product and also A LOT of money for the service & support: both seem to fall considerably short of the expectations and the claims. Hence the criticism.
If a company who has a budget corresponding to 95% of the market share, cannot make its products secure, then I am filled with awe at the marvellous feats of Apple and open source OSes which have considerably less resources, yet make at least comparable quality OSes (stability, compatibility, security, usability etc.). You should ask yourself what the Linux community or Apple could do with a budget like that of M$... that would be more of a fair comparison. Who is more likely to produce bugs and leaks? 1000 programmers or 1? Who is more likely to fix them? Ok, so now we have windows, well, let's leave the middle-ages and put some double glazing in there!
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Indeed. The author makes it clear that the Mac and Linux markets are plenty large enough for vendors to make money. However, they are not large enough for bad guys to make mischief? M$ Windows and M$ Office to a lesser extent are virus enabling technologies. Look. The whole notion that M$ gets 95% of the viruses because it has 95% of the market is silly and an oughtright lie. M$ Windows has a lot more than 95% of the viruses. Do the math. And what's more, most viruses that infect Macs originate in M$ Office.
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I think that since Microsoft has so much money, and is constantly receiving more (grr! ), most of their so-called "programmers" are really accountants who just sit at a desk and count money, and only 5 or 6 guys really work on programming Windows. 2 of these guys are Uncle Billy and Mr. Developers, and the rest are crackheads.
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Talking he he

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and IIRC MS did seem to come out on top in the early OS wars.... dont see a whole lot of amiga around anymore

This should make you feel at least sad! As for quantity=quality, by now you should have read my signature

in any case, i still think that MS gets an unnecessary bad wrap, its HAS to work with ALL hardware made, plain and simple. It HAS to have absolutely no security flaws. Or other wise, it sucks. Obviously, they are failing both those... its like this:

if you have 1000 people trying to find a way into a house or 1 person trying to find a way into a house, which do you think will be more successful?


If they cannot keep up with the market THEY created in the first place then they should roll over and die! If I cannot support one family I'm not going to marry/divorce 3 times or more! I'm going to stay alone Not to mention that with M$, people are not trying to find a way into a house... Instead, they already have the keys AND the password of the security system

anyways, im still one of the few here that is bi-OSexual

You should become normal: As in you should pair with men or women ONLY, not both and even worst, both at the same time!
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Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition

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And stop doing your computer.

Hulk, about the quantity/quality part: 1000 people trying to break into a home are usually a lot more effective by using brute force than one person making an extraordinary plan. Sure, the one's method has more quality, but the 1000's's (yeah, something like that) have the quantity. So I think he agreed with your signature.
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