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Old February 25th, 2004, 02:26 PM
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isnt quicktime sort of embedded in the OS ?
we can preview a movie or audio file in the finder, or even in the Get info dialog box!
and it works perfectly
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Old February 25th, 2004, 02:27 PM
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Yep, it is, but that is somewhat different. Afterall, you aren't really going to want to read your email from the Finder.
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I think you all must watch the following videos from Longhorn:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/Longhorn/p...d/default.aspx

Although, I bet anything that Apple will offer something similar if not better, some of those things are interesting to say the least

But boy-oh-boy, do they seem eager to copy Panther's looks?

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Embedded Apps: I'm indifferent. If it makes my life easier, then bring it on. If not, I don't care. If apps that I never use like iChat are suddenly in my way all the time, then I don't want it.If having all these apps "always on" uses too many resources, then I dont' want it. Having said that, all my future Macs as of September 04 will be monsters, so I really doubt a few iApps is going to cause much of a drain. I use Mail, iSync, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, iCal, etc. so if there's a way that will make those apps more integrated/efficient/connected, BRING IT ON!


Voice Recog: If it works like they say, BRING IT ON. Twice a year for the last few years I install voice recog software or dabble with Aple's built-in recog. It's almost there, but not quite. It's not so much the actual recog as it is the integration. Apple's built-in is not very accurate for me. ViaVoice is fairly accuurate for me, but poorly integrated and slow-ish and has a terrible editor. For general transcription, VV works pretty well for me. But what I found (for me) is that the majority of times voice recog is such a different mental process that it makes it awkward. Voice recog-ing emails for instance is very awkward for those of us who tend to type stream-of-consciousness style. Speaking that way is completely unnatural. You speak three words, then pause and think about it, then move on, it just doesn't quite work for me. And then command and control is so poorly integrated into apps. I have a whole slew of Photoshop keyboard commands that I set up for macros, but you can only go so far before it becomes unwieldy in terms of having to use too many keys or fighting with PS's own commands. Voice command would be perfect for "Print this now to the laser printer" or "Flattent this and convert to CMYK". I find it very hard to use VV for such things currently as PS 7 fights it. I plan on trying CS (like I said, twice a year I waste a weekend doing voice recog, I'm due for another round...).

The level of voice recog in that report is amazing. If that's true, I will be all over it. And for those against it, I'm shocked. Truly shocked. I would never want 100% voice recog, but it's great to have a mouse/keyboard/voice input set when implemented properly. I think the report sounds highly ambitious, but I would very much welcome the "next level" of voice recog/command in the OS.
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Old February 25th, 2004, 05:28 PM
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I remember when Sherlock was more or less integrated in Finder as this was the only search engine. This was not good.
I see how Google is integrate in Safari and Search integrated in Finder. This is good.
Basically, all brushed metal apps may become part of the Finder (not of the system of course: nobody sees the system). All technologies of these iapps maybe embedded in the system, so that they are available to all applications. Why not ?

Voice navigation... ok as long as you are alone and you don't listen to music !
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I don't like the idea of Embedded Applications, and I'm not all that keen on voice control.

I played about a bit with the voice control in Panther, but after a while I got bored of having to repeat myself and put on an American accent so it would recognise me.
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