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Old May 16th, 2004, 03:36 PM
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Well, there are some tools and others. At least one of the ones you mentioned kinda rang a bell in my head. I didn't think that the exact list was that important, so I removed it. The question, I think, on how to create the image, was legit, so I left that in. No offense meant. I just don't want a thread in the Apple News, Rumours & Discussion forum to turn into some kind of 'howto' for PC users who want OS X 'for free' and on PC hardware. ... We gotta keep Apple alive and healthy. ;-)
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Old May 16th, 2004, 04:52 PM
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I believe this kind of emulation is (really) far from perfect. Well, I still have to smile after I've "seen" people asking for advanced features like implementing altivec 2 support. Currently, I am creating a HD image of my system, but I from several reports I gathered the performance is as worse as trying to run OSX on a 68K system (currently no harm is done to our favourite enterprise with the fruit shaped logo). But it is still a big step forward, months ago PPC emulators were considered as impossible.
Personally I am left in the dark of its usefullness. I mean, OSX is all about style, useability or if you get one of the pro machines, its all about high performance applications, which require high processing power.

Maybe we shouldn't see this developement in such a negative light. Maybe some PC users get a (small) taste of Mac OSX and get curious how it will perform on the real machine. (Even if it is a small percent. Not everyone is downloading PPC emulation software of source forge, and how they acquired the OSX CDs then is also questionable)
There is no much harm done, real hardware > emulation. Years have passed since the introduction of VPC and it is still performing slow on current machines. And thats a commercial product.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 10:02 AM
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Well ifrit, i DO see the benefits of PPC emulation on x86. Ever since i 'switched' (and even before that), i prefer using a macintosh instead of a PC. Now most places i go to donot have macs, like my college totally runs PCs. Now I create projects (such as C language programs for my CS course) on my mac, so I would like to take my 'copy' of PPC with me to college on a DVD so that i wouldnt have to modify the code on location. Plus it'd be kinda cool you know That is 'if' they manage to improve PearPC further. The second release already seems a lot better at performance.
All in all, I'd like to see this product evolve.
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Why doesn't someone build Aqua on top of Darwin X86?
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Why doesn't someone build Aqua on top of Darwin X86?
Because someone would have to build Quartz first. Aqua is just the theme and style of the windows and controls. Quartz is what actually puts color on your screen instead of console text.

I'm pretty sure XFree86 or X.org runs on Darwin, so users can get graphical mode on Darwin x86. But that still isn't as good as Quartz/Aqua - you lose hardware accelerated desktop, and although there are hardware accelerated drivers from Nvidia and ATI for x86 Unix OSes, I'm not sure if it works in Darwin.
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Lightbulb PearPC 0.1: Is It A Miracle?

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Well, I can say it truly is a miracle. I never thought I would be able to install Mac OS X 10.3 on my supposedly "inferior" x86-based AMD machine. Well, for most of you mac-zealots, you were wrong. It actually does. And I've got the proof right here!
http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7085

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http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43529

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Great idea! Maybe the folks at Apple will decide to port OSX and liscence the os to run on x86 natively. NOT!!!!!!!!!
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