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Reply With Quotein australia, it is in actual fact illegal to rip a CD. however. it is not enforced at all. : )
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- February 1st, 2005, 11:43 PM #9
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What country are you in? That could have a major impact.
In the States you're limited in some hefty ways - though nothing as severe as preventing transcoding e.g. from CD to AAC or whatever.
In Canada you've got far more freedoms. In other countries, I don't know...
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- February 2nd, 2005, 12:23 AM #10
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- February 2nd, 2005, 02:42 AM #11
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So the question is what should people be careful about when "space shifting" music they have legally obtained without risking a life long sentence in alcatraz?
Would ownership of the original media and being able to prove that the original was not used by another person be sufficient?
Thats the approach I have, copy CDs, vinyls, tapes, and put the original in my attic.
- February 2nd, 2005, 04:54 AM #12
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I've had a lot of "copy-protected" audio CDs, lately. The copy protection usually only "works" on Windows, i.e. my Macs rip those CDs without the slightest problem. Now did I _circumvent_ the protection scheme?
I think in whatever country you live, you should be fine, right now, to copy those CDs to your Mac for your private use. As long as you don't massively buy CDs, rip them, sell them again and afterwards share the MP3s or M4As. Yes, that's not jurisdiction and just my private opinion, but hey: We ain't got no iTunes Music Store here in Switzerland yet. So my "source" for digital music is - and will be for a while - CDs. And If I buy a CD that I can't even rip on my Mac, I'm either gonna download the songs off of (***whatever network is hip today***) or copy it to my PB the analogue way, creating the MP3s myself.
Because: I buy the music and I _only_ want to listen to it on my iPod. I don't do CDs anymore. I figure that fair use, too.Mac user since 1987. Running Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on a MacBook Air 11" & an iMac 27" and whatever's newest for my iPhone 4s, iPad 3 and AppleTV 2.
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- February 2nd, 2005, 05:45 AM #13
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Nothing illegal about ripping CDs, then selling them. It's not like you get full price anyway.
Ok, here's a slight deviation. Is it illegal if a friend lends me a CD and I rip it to my iPod? What if I use a Radio Shark to record an album off the radio, put it on my iPod, burn it to a CD then lend to 8 friends so they can rip it as well?This is a computer-generated message and needs no signature.
- February 2nd, 2005, 06:09 AM #14
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Thinking with italian laws
Originally Posted by Randman
1st) not so sure, but i think that's not so legal... it's the same that copying a cd...
2nd) the radios, here in italy, never play a complete song or album... so you're not reproducing an entire song/album, and I think that's legal... sure, there are ecceptions... i remember a case some years ago when a no-global activists' radio plays entire albums during an anti-copyright campaign in order to allow listeners to rip them...iBook G3 800 MHz
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- February 2nd, 2005, 06:37 AM #15
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Nothing directly illegal no. The copy you ripped however is no longer authorized and thus illegal. The space shifted copy is legal based upon the ownership of a legal copy of the media. Originally Posted by Randman
Not legal in the United States, no. You are not space shifting something you rightfully own a copy of. Originally Posted by Randman
Not legal in the U.S. but also not enforcable. Originally Posted by Randman
Definitely and without question not legal in the U.S.. You are extremely unlikely to ever face charges for it, but that does not mean that it is not a copyright violation. Originally Posted by Randman
- February 2nd, 2005, 07:12 AM #16
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The main thing to remember is that law is territorial. I live in the UK, and it is currently illegal to make a back up copy of music that you have bought, without prior permission obtained from the distribution company (not the record label). However, Oxford University are apparently working on a draft to change this and allow individuals to copy but not distribute.
I went to a seminar yesterday about copyright law, and was explicitly told by an "Intellectual Property Lawyer" that under U.S. law, there is a legal provision to protect your investment.... ie. to make a backup copy.
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