Outlook for OSX

[serpicolugnut]

Both Apple's Mail and Thunderbird are only viable Exchange options if your Exchange server has IMAP turned on. Most Exchange servers don't have this on by default, so unless you have sway with your Exchange Admin, you probably won't be able to use Mail or Thunderbird.

If your company/job doesn't require that you use all the things in Exchange I outlined above, Entourage is a good basic option. It finds/connects to the Exchange server effortlessly. However, if the items I listed above are important to you (as they are to me and my job), you will be disappointed in Entourage as an Exchange client.

Ora - in my situation, different profiles won't work. The additional email acct's I need to access have group permissions set on them that determine who can/can't access them. I've gone straight to MSFT on this one (via their newsgroup), and apparenltly Entourage doesn't support this, at least not yet.

[MisterMe]

Originally Posted by serpicolugnut

Both Apple's Mail and Thunderbird are only viable Exchange options if your Exchange server has IMAP turned on. Most Exchange servers don't have this on by default, so unless you have sway with your Exchange Admin, you probably won't be able to use Mail or Thunderbird.

If your company/job doesn't require that you use all the things in Exchange I outlined above, Entourage is a good basic option. It finds/connects to the Exchange server effortlessly. However, if the items I listed above are important to you (as they are to me and my job), you will be disappointed in Entourage as an Exchange client.

Ora - in my situation, different profiles won't work. The additional email acct's I need to access have group permissions set on them that determine who can/can't access them. I've gone straight to MSFT on this one (via their newsgroup), and apparenltly Entourage doesn't support this, at least not yet.

This is not quite true. Apple Mail explicitly supports Exchange. There is an Exchange setting for new accounts. When you use the Exchange setting in Mail to access your Exchange server, iCal automatically gains access to your Exchange calendar. Any IMAP-compatible email client can access your Exchange server if IMAP is turned on.

[serpicolugnut]

Originally Posted by MisterMe

This is not quite true. Apple Mail explicitly supports Exchange. There is an Exchange setting for new accounts. When you use the Exchange setting in Mail to access your Exchange server, iCal automatically gains access to your Exchange calendar. Any IMAP-compatible email client can access your Exchange server if IMAP is turned on.

Yes, but using Mail you can only READ email from your Exchange server - you can't send from it. The only way you can send from it is if IMAP is turned on.

I don't know about you, but if I can't send AND receive from an account, it's more of a hassle to use than just using Entourage or OWA.

[MisterMe]

Originally Posted by serpicolugnut

Yes, but using Mail you can only READ email from your Exchange server - you can't send from it. The only way you can send from it is if IMAP is turned on.

I don't know about you, but if I can't send AND receive from an account, it's more of a hassle to use than just using Entourage or OWA.

Are you sure that you configured Mail properly for Exchange?

[serpicolugnut]

Quite Sure.

[MDA]

I can assure you that Apple Mail does not work with Windows Exchange server 2003 unless IMAP is turned on. In our case it is not turned on and Mail doesn't work with it at all. It will neither receive nor send. It's very frustrating given the limitations of Entourage 2004 that Microsoft seems in no hurry to address it.

MDA

[MisterMe]

Originally Posted by MDA

I can assure you that Apple Mail does not work with Windows Exchange server 2003 unless IMAP is turned on. In our case it is not turned on and Mail doesn't work with it at all. It will neither receive nor send. It's very frustrating given the limitations of Entourage 2004 that Microsoft seems in no hurry to address it.

MDA

Lacking evidence to the contrary, I am forced to accept the contention that enabling IMAP in Exchange is a necessary condition for Apple Mail to work with it. My firm has enabled IMAP in its Exchange server. Every IMAP client that I have thrown at it seems to work fine. As I have posted above, Apple Mail works fine while using its Exchange settings. But God love Microsoft, the trial version of Entourage 2004 has yet to send or receive anything using its Exchange settings. As far as I can tell, my installation of Entourage 2004 seems to be setup correctly. However, I will resume dancing and chanting incantations tomorrow. Maybe if I sacrifice a goat....

[MisterMe]

Sacrificing the goat did the trick. I can now receive and send using Entourage 2004's Exchange settings.