I want to hear from you

[designer]

Hi eveybody,

I want to know what you guys think.

Browser for mac is always one step behind than PC version.

Don't you guys think Apple should make browser for Mac?

I am sure they will do great job on that.

cheers

[ElDiabloConCaca]

Sure, why not?

Apple could make a LOT of things for the Mac that I'm sure they're perfectly capable of making. But that would require time, money and manpower, and I'd rather them devote those things to the hardware and software they already have. Things need improving, and a browser, since there are SO many alternatives offered, should NOT be high on Apple's priority list. IE 5, in spite of all its shortcomings, is arguably the best browser there is for the Mac at this point in time. Users of Opera, iCab and other "alternative" browsers are usually users who have something against Microsoft in general, or are looking for alternatives to a bloated program, which, arguably, works perfectly well for what it's intended to do.

[hazmat]

IE I think is the best browser for both Mac and Windows. I'm no fan of Microsoft, but IE is infinitely better than Netscape. I've been using Netscape since v1.0 and have seen it get more and more bloated, and more and more unstable. IE, on the other hand, has gotten better and better. I've just started using Mac OS recently (hated it until OS X), and find IE5 for Mac cooler than for Windows. Nice interface. But, it is missing some functionality of the Windows version, namely the searchable History tab. As well as a PC, I also have a Sun Blade 100, and one thing I dislike about running Unix is that I have to use Netscape for a browser. There is IE for Solaris, but it sucks. Mozilla is good, but at least last time I ran it on Solaris, it was lacking in support that I needed.

So anyway, think what you will of Microsoft, but they make an excellent web browser, probably the best overall out there.

[davidbrit2]

In defense of iCab, I think it's much speedier than OmniWeb, and it's got many more control freak features than IE. What would we do without image and javascript filtering? We'd be restarting the browser after crashes more often, that's what. Granted, iCab has had stability problems in the past but the latest release has improved things significantly. Now it only crashes when I ftp... :-\ Oh well, that's what /usr/bin/ftp is for.

[Jadey]

Apple did make a browser. It was called Cyberdog. It's now very very dead. There's still fan sites... out there...

[kenny]

Originally posted by hazmat
So anyway, think what you will of Microsoft, but they make an excellent web browser, probably the best overall out there.

Maybe... I'm not sure whether I agree or disagree on that point, but I'm a little cheezed off that IE does lag behind the Windows version in its feature set. My latest gripe has to do with certificates...

There I was, all pleased with myself because I could use MacOSX as a dial-up workstation so I could work from home... PPP works well, I can SSH to my Solaris boxen (I do sysadmin work for a Fortune 100 corp), I can export Xwindows apps to it, and the browser works well enough to use it for OWA, and our monitoring tools... Hooray! Our company uses as near to zero Macs as possible, so this was a bit of rebellious victory.

One of the latest apps that we rolled out to the web requires a client certificate, so I dutifully exported the certs from my machine at work, and brought them home, only to find that apparently none of the browsers I've installed under MacOSX supports client certs. In fact, I can see no clear way to instaling our CA cert in any of the browsers. (IE, Omni, Mozilla). Ugh.

There are other areas in which the Mac browsers are not up to speed, but the whole certs management thing was the latest thing I came across. Now, if someone knows something about this that I don't, that'd be cool... But I think that the features that we have compared to the Windows browsers (page holder, for instance is pretty slick) are more eye-candy than solid functionality. Thoughts??

[beef]

my personal feeling is that it's just easier to use IE...

with MS coming up with whatever (stolen or not) every now and then and pushing them as standards... I think it's just easier to let MS develop Internet browser for Mac...

I don't really see a reason to go against MS, until they start charging update fee for their browser or something...

[sithious]

huh? internet explorer?
no way, certainly not for me ... i use ie only in emergencies when there's a site that omniweb won't load properly , and 99% of the time that`ll be ie in classic, as omniweb, for me anyway, only has problems with flash 5, which ie 5 won't load either ... this is because there apparently isn't yet a plugin for os x ... so i have to revert to using ie in classic ... but why use ie in x?

it looks cruddy, it renders awfully, it's slow as hell, and, speaking of hell, it was made by microsloth ...

netscape, as far as i can see, is just this huge clunk of stuff... i want a browser, not a browseremailclientnewsgroupreadercleunupthekitchenwhileyou'regone ... in my experience it's slow, renders as badly as ie, doesn't smooth fonts in any noticeable way....
mozilla is just netscape without the netscape...

icab and opera i tested and chucked back into the trash ... they're okay, but they don't seem to do anything much that omniweb can't do...

omniweb looks beautifully aqua, smoothes fonts wonderfully, has a lot of cool possibilities (blocking banners and popups is the best!), and apart from that, omnigroup coded for nextstep, so they're worth supporting ...

so:
OMNIWEB! OMNIWEB! OMNIWEB!

*lol*