Native FTP program?

[bighairydog]

Hi, anyone know a good ftp program under OSX? I'm sick of booting classic just to upload a file.

It would need to be able to upload, download and chmod files.

Ta

Bernie :o)

[swizcore]

There are a few options you could pursue here.
1. Use Transmit. its simple and works and the new beta doesn't crash like the current final does alot. It may be had from

http://www.panic.com/index-l.html
The same company that makes Audion

2. You could use Interarchy which sets up FTP disks on your desktop of your remote files. This is cool cause you can work on a whole website locally then upload (synchronize function) whenever you wish. The one draw back I have had with this app is that if it is synching and a network bottleneck occurrs it may upload an empty document. This is very annoying so i have stuck with the Sites function within Golive until Interarchy can fix this.

http://www.interarchy.com/

[Chris Belwinds]

You may want to try one of the following:

a) SecureFTP

b) Transit

I cannot find the URLs at the moment. Sorry.

[swizcore]

Hey Chris, how are the GUI's on these apps?
Thanks

[edX]

it now costs money ( the edu cost is cheap ) but the classic fetch is now osx compliant

http://www.fetchsoftworks.com/

for a free trial.
It works for me. But I will admit to not being a power ftp user so maybe someone could offer the pros and cons of these different apps.

[joecrow]

type 'ftp' in the terminal to use the builtin ftp client. for a list of available commands type '?'.

it does just about everything... and you can tell it what file to upload by dragging the file onto the terminal window (which puts the files location on the current line).

-JoeCrow

[Javintosh]

funny you should ask this...

I FTP *a lot* (at least I like to think that I do ) while creating web sites.

I have been using Anarchie until (IMHO) it went to the toilet in v4.0 while at the same time getting very expensive ($45). With version 5, they have added more features that I do not need.

Mostly, I got ticked-off when I realized that I could no longer download older versions of their FTP program.

I started looking for a new FTP program, but I did not seem to be able to find anything that I really liked, so I started looking more rigorously at the thing that I would like in a program and then I started trying different programs.

Below are the notes that I've written to myself so far:
Note: Nothing is as good as Anarchie 3.8, but even classic is getting long in the tooth for me.

I mostly write about problems. If there is no feedback for a particular feature, that means is appears to work.

Things that I need in an FTP client:
1. Speed - escpecially, uploading/downloading several hundred very small files.
2. Ability to quickly list directories with thousands of files
3. Ability to edit files in remote server using BBEdit (and have FTP client upload updated files as I save them in BBEdit)
4. Ability to set file permissions and ability to set upload permission defaults
5. Ability to rename remote files.
6. Ability to create remote directories.
7. Ability to delete remote files and directories (including recirsive delete).
8. Drag and Drop for both upload and download.
9. Ability to turn off display of local files.
10. Keyboard navigation, including the ability to open in same window or new window at will (by changing modifier keys).

Apps:

Transmit:
1. Major - When saving files in BBEdit, Transmit crashes when trying to upload file
2. positive - download speed of many small files is very good
3. Minor but annoying - delete key jumps selection to top of list and forward delete key jumps to the end of list
4. Minor - if BBEdit and BBedit Classic are installed, editing a file will launch BBEdit lite.
5. Minor - if uploading files and editing a file at the sam time, Transmit crashes after I save the edited file (and the upload from transmit begins)
Not as fast as RBrowser, but it feels more responsive when navigating.
Bottom Line: Most likely candiate to use as an OS X native FTP client, but current bugs will limit usefullness. Also, GUI wastes more space than I would like. With so many other classic apps, Anarchie is still better choice for the moment.

Fetch:

NetFinder:

RBrowser:
1. Major - no drag and drop support - cannot hide local files because cannot upload/download without that display
2. positive - finder-like renaming
3. Minor - selecting a folder via arrow keys in keyboard open the folder (list view)
4. Major - no real support for BBEdit (does not auto upload changed files)
5. Major - Have to navigate into user directory to access the desktop\
6. positive - acceptable speed
7. positive - when you return to an FTP site, it remembers where you were at last
8. Very aggravating minor - cannot select or drag and drop files by name as it automatically enters into the renaming mode

Hefty FTP:
1. Minor - Has same funny bug with colored text as File Fetcher.
2. Major - No useful drag and drop (it seems as if drag and drop returns a session log)
3. Major - Cannot hide local file display
4. Major - cannot hide session transcript
5. Major - Have to navigate into user directory to access the desktop
6. Major - No facility to easily setting remote permission
7. major - no support for BBEdit
8. Minor - speed very slow
9. Major - takes huge amounts of screen space (especially when considering that there is no feedback unless the queue window is open)

File Fetcher:
1. Minor - Has that funny bug in which text looks all funky colors (I read in another thread that this is a bug in RealBasic).
2. Major - No support for BBEdit editing
3. Critical - Hangs if I open it and switch to another application and switch back to FielFetcher.

Gideon:
1. Major - No drag and drop support
2. Major - Could not make folder on remote system
3. Major - Could not use popup path for navigation (afterwards I could not navigate into subfolders)
4. - Critical - Crashed when I tried to download files

[edX]

now that was what i would call a pretty thorough answer. I'm still puzzled that you didn't review fetch or netfinder. does this mean you haven't evaluated them yet or that you simply find nothing really good or bad? You said no comment means it works. I would really like to know how my fetch stacks up against the others. I know i don't need all those features yet, but still I'd like to know. actually, the more i think about it, i believe my fetch was free. I remember them telling me i could freely distribute it to others at school. All i had to do was send in a jpeg version of my school id to get the registration code.
Regardless, that was an excellent post of information javintosh!! Certainly others should benefit from the research you have done and shared.