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blasto
July 29th, 2005, 05:56 PM
my ibook video is hanging periodically, requiring reboot,
system log records....
Jul 29 11:26:13 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon::submit_buffer: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 5, need 6. RBBM_STATUS 0x80010140. VAP_CNTL_STATUS 0x00000002
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x01005c63 4f000217 00000007 00000003
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x0200b05d c0001c04 00000002 00000008
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x00004443 01e1f8b7 00001616 80010140
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x4000ffff 001e0000 51b3a220 72001005
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x080a0f00 00000000 040100f8 80000003
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0x0008bbbb 00000002
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 0:0x00000002
Jul 29 11:26:24 localhost kernel: 1:0x000101ce
and this goes on.
Iknow very little about this stuff, but it looks like a hardware problem.
help please!
blasto
July 30th, 2005, 04:40 AM
I think I may have resolved the problem by resetting the VRAM firmware. Feared is was a dodgy logic board, but so far the problem has not returned.
blasto
July 30th, 2005, 05:02 AM
Sod's law. Having reset the VRAM late last night, and it running fine overnight, the minute I posted it hung up. Here's the system log:Jul 30 10:31:46 localhost ntpd[314]: precision = 9 usec
Jul 30 10:31:46 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting network file system
Jul 30 10:31:47 localhost automount[341]: automount version 57
Jul 30 10:31:47 localhost automount[348]: automount version 57
Jul 30 10:36:15 localhost kernel: ApplePMUUserClient::setProperties WakeOnACchange 0
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x01005c63 4f000217 00000007 00000003
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x0200743f c0001c04 00000002 00000008
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x00004443 01e1f8b3 00003131 80010140
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x4000ffff 001e0000 51b3a220 72001005
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x080a0f00 00000000 040100f8 80000003
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0x0008bbbb 00000002
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 0:0x00000002
Jul 30 10:41:42 localhost kernel: 1:0x000101ce
This runs on and on and then:
Jul 30 10:43:21 localhost kernel: 1022:0xffffffff
Jul 30 10:43:21 localhost kernel: 1023:0xffffffff
Jul 30 10:43:21 localhost kernel: 0x2095e382
Jul 30 10:43:21 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Jul 30 10:43:25 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon::submit_buffer: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 5, need 6. RBBM_STATUS 0x80010140. VAP_CNTL_STATUS 0x00000002
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x01005c63 4f000217 00000007 00000003
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x0200743f c0001c04 00000002 00000008
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x00004443 01e1f8b7 00003131 80010140
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x4000ffff 001e0000 51b3a220 72001005
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x080a0f00 00000000 040100f8 80000003
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0x0008bbbb 00000002
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 0:0x00000002
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 1:0x000101ce
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 2:0x10006020
Jul 30 10:43:36 localhost kernel: 3:0x00000002
which runs on until I reboot. The Radeon isn't mention this time at the start of the hang, But crops up later. Any ideas?
ElDiabloConCaca
July 30th, 2005, 10:49 AM
How did you reset the VRAM? I've never heard of that before!
blasto
July 30th, 2005, 11:21 AM
Start up while holding down
Command-Option-O-F
At the prompt type
reset-nvram (and hit Return)
reset-all (and hit Return)
Mac will reboot
Alternatively a total reset of the power management unit (PMU) will also rest VRAM (among other things)
Control-Option-Shift-Power keys
wait 5 seconds
start up Mac
Check out the Apple site for PMU reset before trying so you don't loose any data.
ElDiabloConCaca
July 31st, 2005, 12:04 AM
Oh... "NVRAM" is not VRAM and has nothing to do with the memory on the graphics chip/card like most VRAM does... it stands for "Non-volatile RAM" and it's a place in the Mac's firmware where critical preferences and settings concerning your machine's power management, graphics, boot preferences, etc. are stored.
I didn't quite know what you were talking about when you said "VRAM" -- just never heard it referred to as that before! :D
blasto
July 31st, 2005, 02:55 AM
Thanks
I stand corrected!
spycake
September 9th, 2005, 08:46 PM
Same problem here, iBook G4 1.07 GHz, OS X 10.3.9
I took the machine to a Mac store awhile back, and they suggested updating the video drivers -- no luck -- or creating a new user -- still no luck -- and then reinstalling -- again, no luck. I'm worried it might be a hardware thing. I'm going to try a fresh install of Tiger soon, but the machine keeps freezing while I'm trying to back up my data (and therefore corrupting my external USB drive!).
This is a real pain in the butt, and there seems to be no reference to this error anywhere on the net (except a World of Warcraft forum!) and even the Mac store geeks were baffled by it. Anybody got a clue? Thanks -- Jim
spycake
September 9th, 2005, 08:51 PM
I found another mention of this error through Google -- it's a Spanish page, though:
http://www.macuarium.com/foro/lofiversion/index.php/t121213.html
What I gleam from the Babelfish translation is that it's a hardware problem with the "logical plate" (I assume they mean the infamous logic board problems). That doesn't sound good. And to boot, they estimate the replacement cost at 300 euros, which is closer to $400. Damn. And I'm just barely a year past my warranty! Damn, damn, damn. (Please excuse the profanity)
spycake
September 13th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Installed Tiger 10.4.2, and removed the extra 512 MB memory stick I had installed (even thought it tested fine) -- and yet I still get the error. Once it wouldn't even start up correctly -- it just displayed a dark gray screen with lines on it. So, I think it has now displayed 3 of the 5 Logic Board Failure symptoms from Apple (http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/):
Scrambled or distorted video
Appearance of unexpected lines on the screen
Intermittent video image
Video freeze
Computer starts up to blank screen
It looks like my next step is to call Apple. Wish me luck...
Fr0ZeNChicKeN
September 19th, 2005, 02:39 PM
I had a system with a simular problem:
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: 0x01005157 2f000207 00000007 00000003
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: 0x00009499 c0000c04 00000002 00000008
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: 0x00004443 01e1f827 00003f3f 80010140
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: 0x40003fff 001e0000 51b3a320 70000104
Sep 16 13:03:29 localhost kernel: 0x080a0f00 00000000 00000100
On and On...
Sep 16 13:03:32 localhost kernel: 0x9ad64f8d
Sep 16 13:03:32 localhost kernel: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Sep 16 13:03:32 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon::submit_buffer: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 4, need 6. RBBM_STATUS 0x80010140. VAP_CNTL_STATUS 0x00000100
The system:
Machine Model: eMac
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
Memory: 128 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.6.4f1
I found I could do a safe boot so I figured it could not be a hardware problem. Looking at specs I found the system to have a ATI Radeon 7500 when I looked in root\system\library\extensions I found a bunch of ATI radeon stuff but mostly differnet numbers 8500, 9700. So I made a backup on the desktop just in case and removed all the files that had those numbers plus a DVD driver and ATIRadeonGA.plugin. Then I restarted the system. And it booted with no errors. I should mention before I did this I did download the latest drivers from ATI "ATI Displays 4.5.5.dmg". i cannot say what files caused it I have not placed them back to see and it could just be dumb luck as I'm new to Mac but it's a path worth looking at. :eek:
spycake
September 20th, 2005, 01:41 PM
How long ago did you do this fix? And it's been running perfectly fine since? I've had periods of a week or so where it worked fine, but then it starts freezing again. Also, I completely reformatted and installed Tiger and the problem was still there, so I can't imagine it's the result of any odd files lying around. I'll have to try it out, I guess.
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