View Full Version : The new iPhone 4S
October 4th, 2011, 11:36 PM
Apple revealed the iPhone 4S (video stream (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piuhbvdlbkvoih10/event/index.html)).
Later in the day I read the article The real reason there's no iPhone 5: The carriers (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-20115654-256/the-real-reason-theres-no-iphone-5-the-carriers/?tag=mncol). What is your opinion?
October 5th, 2011, 08:53 AM
This is what I've heard across the internets:
"The iPhone 4S is a huge disappointment."
I find that extremely strange logic. EVERYTHING about the iPhone has improved: speed, RAM, capabilities, graphics, plus a whole slew of upgrades that make owning an iPhone easier: wireless sync, over-the-air updates, etc.
The sole reason behind the "iPhone 4S is a letdown" is that it didn't change form-factor (and, perhaps, the number didn't go up to "5"). Everything else about it is a MAJOR upgrade -- arguably, the most awesome upgrade is the cutting-edge, industry-changing voice recognition. It is truly amazing technology that will eventually change the way people interact with their devices.
"But it didn't change shape, and the screen is the same size!"
So, put it in a case, and call it an iPhone 5... there, better?
October 5th, 2011, 09:53 AM
So, put it in a case, and call it an iPhone 5... there, better?I cannot agree more. From what I see, this is coming from the news media. They are holding Apple responsible for rumors rather than actual products. There is one other thing that you left out. The iPhone 4S will be available on Sprint. This is huge. Now all three of the major US cell phone carriers may offer iPhones to their subscribers. Also, they may all offer the same iPhone. The product line is no longer bifurcated.
October 5th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Yes. I know a bunch of people who wanted an iPhone 5. Such as my other half - I'd have inherited his iPhone 4, but there doesn't seem to be that much of a change with the models, at least for now. Camera surely, but I think I'll rather upgrade my actual camera first.
So I think that'll mean living a while longer with my handed-down 3G. (Which actually needs some fixing to get it charging, so I'm on a loan 3GS for now)
So if it had been called iPhone 5, I guess I'd have inherited the 4.
October 5th, 2011, 12:08 PM
They are holding Apple responsible for rumors rather than actual products.
October 5th, 2011, 01:52 PM
...but there doesn't seem to be that much of a change with the models, at least for now. Camera surely, but I think I'll rather upgrade my actual camera first.
Had there been a form-factor change, I think people would be singing a different song. I really believe that the detractors are being very superficial, and since the phone looks the same, the notion is that there wasn't much change (when, in fact, this is arguably one of the biggest round of upgrades the iPhone has ever seen).
Siri voice recognition is absolutely enormous. It changes the way that we interact with our phones on many levels, and allows people to speak naturally and quickly, while maintaining almost 100% accuracy. If you so desire, you never have to type nor read a single thing on the phone, ever again. Compose and have read back to you 100% accurate emails, text messages, phone dialing, calendar appointments, weather reports, stock options... the integration with Wolfram-Alpha is mind-blowing. It puts the world of information at your voice command, just like freaking Star Trek.
The new, switching antenna design allowed the iPhone to not only double its speed, septuple its graphics capabilities, but also increase battery life across the board.
Also changed is the fact that this is a "world phone" -- GSM and CDMA, all-in-one. No more model dichotomy, as MisterMe said. Buy it in Hong Kong and use it in the USA.
We now have 1080p, stabilized video. 8 megapixels of f2.4, ultra-fast photo shooting (replacing many point-and-shoot cameras outright).
It's simply superficial judgement -- since it looks the same, all of the other amazing upgrades get swept under the rug. Had Apple added a beveled, aluminum body and incremented the model number by one (both insignificant, superficial, and useless "upgrades"), or even just called it the iPhone "5", people would be lining up for pre-orders now.
Not that much of a change? That tells me that someone didn't actually watch the whole presentation and tuned out once they saw there was no form-factor change.
I reiterate: go back and calculate the changes from iPhone model to iPhone model. It is ridiculous to think that this round of updates was NOT the most major, most groundbreaking, and most important round of updates to the iPhone yet.
What did the 3G add over the original iPhone? Form-factor, 3G and GPS. That's it. No speed bump, no better screen, no nothing (GPS is big, though, gotta give credit where credit is due).
What did the 3GS add over the 3G? Speed, storage/RAM, and a slightly better camera with video capabilities.
What did the 4 add over the 3GS? New form factor, CDMA, much better camera, gyroscope, noise suppression, retina display, and a different SIM card.
What did the 4S add over the 4? Radically improved, faster camera with 1080p video and image stabilization. 4G-like 3G speeds. Support for all three major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint). Single- to dual-core CPU. Siri natural voice recognition (can't extoll the virtues of this enough). 7x better graphics capabilities. Improved battery life while still increasing specs across the board.
The 4S had as many and as important improvements to it over the 4 than the 4 had over the 3GS, yet people still complain that it doesn't look any different.
Yikes. If this is the state of consumers today, I think I'll go ahead and make millions by putting Honda engines and transmissions under Porsche bodies -- because, you know, unless it looks different, well, all the other crap is just that: crap.
(Gia: this is in no way an attack on your logic, it was just one small fragment of a sentence of yours that got me thinking about it)
I ask this of those who do not think this was a big update to the iPhone: What, then, specifically, would have made you go, "Oh, snap! That is INCREDIBLE and this is a major upgrade!"
October 5th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Yeah, I only read up on it after hearing the reactions from coworkers and the internet. I was really impressed.
I wonder if the poor reaction is due to the Steveless presentation. I feel like Jobs would've had the world screaming "magic!" at Siri.
Also, perhaps Apple's reluctance to offer detailed specs is hurting them. Okay, it's dual-core, but that doesn't really tell me anything. How fast it? We know the clock speeds of the iPhone 4, iPad, and every Android phone. The iPhone 4S is vague. Is it faster than the iPad? Equal? "Twice as fast" actually seems less than impressive. It should be twice as fast by virtue of the second core alone. If that's all they managed, I think they're falling behind. I'd expect 3-4x faster (at least in marketing terms).
Does anyone know if this would work on T-Mobile? Since it's being touted as a world phone capable of working on many networks, I wonder. I'm really tempted by T-Mobile's new monthly plans, and might buy a new Android soon and switch. If the 4S worked, than it's definitely make me think. But there's just no way I'm switching to any of the big 3. I see no value for the prices.
November 3rd, 2011, 07:12 AM
I am only delighetd with the Apple iPhone 4s. I think there great!
November 3rd, 2011, 08:02 AM
Surprised by some of the negative reactions to be honest. I have to say I am one of the positive people with good feedback about them.