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Browni
September 19th, 2003, 10:58 AM
People.
I spent a few days pondering what to do next, so i drew some wings, thinking about doing a angel. however how do you draw people in photoshop, or do i have to scan in a picture?
`Adam
For those interested here are the wings i did
brianleahy
September 19th, 2003, 11:51 AM
Photoshop isn't really primarily a drawing program, it's mostly for photo retouching. Something like Corel Draw or Illustrator offer better tools for freehand drawing and painting.
If you really want to draw freehand on your mac, you might also consider a Graphire tablet instead of a mouse.
I *do* like the wings - clearly you do have some talent. You might be able to do even greater stuff with some software better suited to the purpose.
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 12:04 PM
Thanks very much, they took me a wile.I will have to dig out a try out of illstrator 10 since i don't have os9 on here.
thanks
adam
Urbansory
September 19th, 2003, 02:30 PM
I use illustrator, then I go back and touch things up with illustrator to get either realism or the correct colorization.
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 02:45 PM
Aw crap i cant find a copy of illustrator anywhere! I might buy an tablet. or 'acquire' one from college. ;)
brianleahy
September 19th, 2003, 02:46 PM
Urbansory: did you mean "photoshop" the 2nd time?
Arden
September 19th, 2003, 02:51 PM
Nice wings. If you can't or don't want to draw a person in there, try Google Image Search.
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 02:54 PM
ive tried but i cant find anyone, i just want some one prefilby a woman, standing up right, so i can add stuff.
Any ideas?
ps nice tag mr___
brianleahy
September 19th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Sounds like the plight of every lonely single man... ::ha::
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 03:34 PM
lol too true too true!
Urbansory
September 19th, 2003, 03:51 PM
lol, yea, I guess i need to start proof reading and stop being SpeedTyperX. PhotoShop was what i meant, if i find a few of my examples, well go through the DVD/CD archives, I'll post a few examples.
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 04:05 PM
thanks, lol speedtyperX
thanks
adam
BoneFill
September 19th, 2003, 04:22 PM
I have to disagree, Photoshop is not only for photo retouching (i rarely use it for that reason) if you want to do cartoons or anime/manga then illustrator is fine but if you want realism illustrator, corel and freehand are not a good choices the best you can do without falling into the reallity-fake of 3D is get a pencil and sheet of paper then do a sketch on it then you'll need a scanner then go to photoshop and add some colors textures and details to your draw... a tablet would help a lot though
IMHO the best way to learn this is working on a scanned picture.
Hair tut (http://www.merekatcreations.com/html/tutorials/hairmain2.html)
Drawing people tut (really good) (http://www.wade.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tutorial1.htm)
Browni
September 19th, 2003, 05:03 PM
that drawing tut is immense! but too advanced for me tho, i just want a blank body with a robe on mabey so i can add headdress etc i remmber somthing in creative arts magaizine some time with loads of stock images .
thanks adam
Trip
September 19th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Photoshop can be used to draw people really well. I've actually drawn quite a few models in Photoshop using only a mouse! I just went about it as if I was drawing on paper with a pencil. Start with the frames and lines, add outlines, shapes, then move on from there. I use the pen tool on about size 2 or 3. If you want to play risky you can try it with the pen tool and then outline the created path, but that's scary (if you try it you'll see what I mean).
:)
brianleahy
September 19th, 2003, 05:57 PM
I never said that Photoshop COULDN'T be used for freehand drawing. But I maintain that Adobe does not INTEND it to be primarily used for that purpose.
Corel & Illustrator, by contrast, ARE intended (and marketed) for that purpose, and offer more tools for that use.
Arden
September 19th, 2003, 07:18 PM
Look on www.renderosity.com for renders of people. There are lots and lots of images there, so you're sure to find something you like. Just be sure to credit the artist if you produce this work commercially.
Browni
September 20th, 2003, 03:39 AM
thanks trip. i will give that a try.
Browni
September 20th, 2003, 08:33 AM
thanks mr E v helpful. out of intrest would Painter 8 work well?
Trip
September 20th, 2003, 11:10 AM
Painter 8 would work really well for this situation! But you might have to edit/add some effects in photoshop to make it look as good as those wings. ;)
Browni
September 20th, 2003, 03:43 PM
well do you know any helpful hints for draping people in general, because my art skills aren't that good when it come to people. any templates?
Trip
September 20th, 2003, 04:11 PM
If you really want I can draw up a quick tutorial for you. :)
Browni
September 21st, 2003, 07:15 AM
would you mind trip thank very much
Jason
September 21st, 2003, 12:00 PM
wow that tutorial was hardcore :eek:
Browni
September 21st, 2003, 12:52 PM
yes it sure was! Ive been trying to work with painter 8 but i just cant get to grips with it! :mad:
Trip
September 21st, 2003, 03:33 PM
Sorry for the quality of this tutorial (lol) but I'm busy working on my website. Anywho, here we go (with the attached image):
1. Using basic shapes and lines create the "frame" of your character. Using a picture reference or live model look where basic lines and shapes are and quickly sketch them down.
2. Outline around your sketches and bring in more detail to your shapes. Again: using a picture model or real model as a reference can be handy!
3. Add detail, erase parts that don't look like they fit and add parts that should fit. Work with the outlines and if desired begin working on the inside of your picture.
*I used this method to create the character in this picture a year ago: http://www.TannerSite.com/tannersite/Gallery/summon.jpg
Depending on the amount of detail you add you can make your outcome very realistic, or cartoonish. But this is the basic way to get a human figure into your painting/drawing. If you have questions just ask and I'll find the time to answer. ;)
Browni
September 21st, 2003, 03:42 PM
thanks trip, v helpfull
whats ur site?
Trip
September 21st, 2003, 04:44 PM
My site: http://www.TannerSite.com
Arden
September 21st, 2003, 08:24 PM
Heh, if this is a commercial product, I'm sure you can find a starving art student somewhere who would be happy to draw people for you for a modest fee.
Barring that, look around this vast cyberocean for tutorials and tips, and practice your techniques.
Trip
September 21st, 2003, 10:29 PM
Going back to the #1 post here...maybe if you took a photograph of a model and then edit it in photoshop...that'd look really well with those wings.
Only thing is: do you have a camera?
Finding a model isn't ever a problem, you've always got yourself. But then again you'll need a tripod (or similar) and an autotimer. :)
BoneFill
September 22nd, 2003, 01:22 AM
If you can find a copy of a book named How to draw comics "the marvel way" by Stan Lee and John Buscema you'll see that is not that hard to learn that style... This book does a pretty good job explaining the basis with cool illustrations... :) the books at How to draw manga are also good at it ... Trip's tuts are cool thou ;)
How to draw manga Female Body tut (http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial/fbodymain.html)
Bakaneko tuts (http://www.bakaneko.com/howto_innerframe.htm)
Polykarbon tuts (http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/index.htm)
Now, you can try searching at Photo.net (http://www.photo.net) or at ImageBank (http://www.imagebank.com) you might find something useful there...
Don't forget to show us the final result :)
Browni
September 22nd, 2003, 01:39 AM
hmmm I think i will brow my dad camra and tripod and use a psersons body :) thanks guys.
Adam
Arden
September 22nd, 2003, 02:46 AM
See? Tutorials everywhere. :)
Browni
September 22nd, 2003, 09:51 AM
Thanks all very much, ive got my frame and everything thanks :)
And i will show u the final result :)
Thanks
Adam
mseydel
September 30th, 2003, 11:43 AM
Lots of well-meaning folks here...the rub is that learning how to draw from scratch for one specific task is a tall order. And as a 'reformed' painter and illustrator, I'd say it's a lot easier to draw traditionally than digitally. Digital drawing gives you many options and malleability, but it's more difficult to build your skill at rendering objects and people accurately. I had a painting professor in college who used to say, "Reality is much richer than the imagination." What he meant was the level of detail in reality, and by natural extension, photography as a small window of reality, is much greater than what you can remember or create in your mind's eye. That's not a dismissal of the visual creative powers in people's heads, it just means you have to spend a long time looking closely and things and drawing them before you can just sit down and crank out an image of, let's say, an angel...
Trip
September 30th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Your style and training isn't how everybody elses style and training is mseydel.
Arden
September 30th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Are you trying to encourage him to use a photo or something?
Trip
September 30th, 2003, 08:54 PM
Who me?
Browni
October 3rd, 2003, 09:48 AM
well i have a cunnning plan! :D
I have my friend at a art college doing me a frame in black pen so i can scan it in. then i will use a photo with either poser or photoshop and 'wrap' parts of the photo around it.
Should look quite good.
Adam
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