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habilis
November 1st, 2003, 03:32 PM
Clicking the "Start" button to shut down your computer or dragging your CD into the Trash to eject it?

Actually it was a very hard decision for me to make since both of these things are incredibly stupid, especially for companies as megalithic as Apple and Micro$oft. I would have loved to be in on the brainstorm sessions where these decisions were made.

mr. k
November 1st, 2003, 03:40 PM
Maybe it's just because I've used mac's forever, but dragging a cd to the trash makes sense to me - it has always been obvious to me that if I want something gone, I put it in the trash. On the other hand, the principle behind the start menu being the menu which you need to use to shut down the computer - that's just stupid symbolism. I can't see how it helps the system be simpler or more intuitive, especially intuitive.

habilis
November 1st, 2003, 03:49 PM
it has always been obvious to me that if I want something gone, I put it in the trash

"Gone" is a bit too vague for me in this context. I would never think to trash a floppy to eject it. As far as I've ever known, if you drag and drop something into the trash, it's deleted. I've been on Macs for about 5 years now and I'm still not liking the trash/eject phenomenon.

UNIX X11
November 1st, 2003, 04:03 PM
umm
"Start, Shutdown, Restart"
:D

mr. k
November 1st, 2003, 04:33 PM
Yeah, my comfort with the feature is probably just because it's always made sense to me. Rationally it is odd. But not as bad as the above!

adambyte
November 1st, 2003, 06:02 PM
Yeah.... Start---> Shut down is just plain oxy-moron-ish. Whereas dragging a disk to the trash is just bad symbolism. Both are stupid, but Start>Shut down is a little more stupid because it's opposites.

hulkaros
November 2nd, 2003, 02:27 AM
But in OS X if you drag your disks into Trash the Trash changes to Eject so basically it is not a mere trash for those disks! :p The same if you want to burn data on an CD or if you want to remove items from a Finder's window toolbar! PLUS you can use the Eject key to eject your CD/DVDs ;)

But the Start button in Windows is just Start button even if you do the Start > Shutdown > Restart or Start > Shutdown > Sleep :p