Dear macosx.com Therapist,

[MacLuv]

lol... no I know man... ahhhhhh... i only said that to contrast the massive amount of analysis that was being put forth to the lad... i suppose by the time he digests it all trip will be 30!

Like the nike ads say: JUST DO IT!

<women aren't the mystery you think they are, and one day you'll wish they were>

[MacLuv]

Originally posted by edX
hey Macluv - he's 15. give him a break. hell, he's braver than iwas at that age just by asking for advice about it. i was so scared to ask the girl i liked out when i was 17 that i dated her best friend for a month before i finally admitted who i really liked and she helped hook me up. the friend had kinda figured it out already when i was hesitant to kiss her good nite.

lol... ed this cracks me up dude... lol... the ol "backdoor routine" !!!!!!!!! *totally*



BTW-- i can totally relate of course, i didn't start dating seriously until I was about 18... i was a late bloomer... of course that doesn't mean I didn't like girls... I had crushes on chicks since I was like, in the third grade.

One time to impress a girl I rearranged the letters on the giant school marquee to ask her out on a date. People weren't into text messaging at the time (no cell phones back then) so I doubt she could really understand my message. My friends made fun of me for months.

I remember the first time I asked a girl out for a date to the roller skating rink. She said "yes" at first but later sent me a note in class about "just being friends". I was crushed, but let's say one must live and learn. Later on in life she became a babe and totally dug me, but I moved away and had the last goodbye. Life is a strange thing sometimes... lol

[edX]

Originally posted by MacLuv
i suppose by the time he digests it all trip will be 30!

no, i was hoping with our help he would beat the natural learning curve and have it figured out in his mid 20's

<women aren't the mystery you think they are, and one day you'll wish they were>

word.

[Shifting]

Originally posted by edX
hell, he's braver than iwas at that age just by asking for advice about it. i was so scared to ask the girl i liked out when i was 17 that i dated her best friend for a month before i finally admitted who i really liked and she helped hook me up. the friend had kinda figured it out already when i was hesitant to kiss her good nite.

i totally hear you there Ed. i was 19 when i started my first real relationship, and i had no idea what to do....lucky for me my first G/F had infinite patience & understand with me. those first times are tough.

so how goes it with the woman, Trip? sorry i completely forgot about this thread, and i'm too lazy to read it all.

[Trip]

I thought about it, and we've been friends for only a short time! So tomorrow i'm going to ask her to lunch and we'll get to know eachother better. Then we'll see what happens.

[Trip]

Well I think i already told Ed this but: i didn't ask her out, and i think her and i are fine being friends. Honestly i don't want to go anywhere else with this individual. On the otherhand there is a certain lady i would like to move on with, but we don't talk much. We talk probably once everyother week. Although we do say 'hi' often to eachother.

My question for tonight (i could really use a mature response by tomorrow morning) is: what's a good conversation starter for a person like this? I can't seem of anything to say! And if she's with friends should i risk embarassing myself?

[Shifting]

Trip, dunno if i can help.

my own game revolves around being up front from the get-go.

for example, the girl i met last week. i obviously showed her i liked her from the start. and she responded in kind, and i'm gonna see her again tomorrow.

but that can't work for your situation. but i still prescribe the same. let her know you're interested. and if she responds to it, so much the better. and if she doesn't....her loss. life is too short to have regrets.

my advice is in no way perfect, it's tailored for ME dealing with the local bar scene. so keep that in mind. but no matter what, remember that you HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

good luck to the both of us.

[Trip]

hum...i don't think she likes me. She didn't sit by me today, and we didn't talk at all.

How can i become more of a friend with her? What can i say instead of "hi, i like you."?