Longhorn Vista Pics & Movie

[nixgeek]

Originally Posted by HateEternal

Are they for sure removing it? I know someone already wrote a virus script in it, so they were thinking of making it an optional add on, but not something that would be a forced install.

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?si...id=172&tid=218

http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archiv...05/408720.aspx

Monad won't be included in the final version of Vista, but will possibly be included in the server versions of Vista.

[Satcomer]

Oh great a new Microsoft system. My company still runs 2000! XP is considered unsafe in the office where I work. I was given extra duties with supporting the users 2000 boxes along with the Unix boxes. The largest problem by far, causing me to cut off users, is ignorance of users and so called LAN administrators not updating their virus definitions and security updates.

All of you Windows apologist should stop and smell what you are dishing. The majority of windows users are unaware of their operating system and simple security. This is the very reason why every so often I find an extra helping of spam in my inbox because MOST Windows users likely (even the ones I personally know) have not updated their XP, 2000 box and one or more of them have a spam zombie installed on their machine and I am in their inbox. This is my largest problem with Windows! I don't blame Microsoft, I want to make that clear. I do blame Microsoft users and sellers pushing this operating system that is not for the masses in cheap computers. XP, 2000 can be made safe with extra money and diligence. Most users are ignorant of this or don't care.

OS X is ready for the masses. Yes, OS X needs the occasional security update for the potential security threat. However, compared to Microsoft system, the OS X security is at least 10 years ahead of XP and most likely Vista. The reason for this is painfully simple, Microsoft is expected to support all those different cheap boxes so every operating system since NT 4.0 can run every program wrote since it's release. This is the reason why XP has 10 to 20 year old code written into it. This is the reason why Microsoft XP+ is inherently security is abysmal.

[fryke]

Originally Posted by g/re/p

Hey, isn't this thread supposed to be
Apple News, Rumors & Discussion??

Yep. Thusly I moved the thread now. ...

[gerbick]

I see similarities... but saying that MS ripped them is going quite a bit... well far. I guess since Windows Vista uses a mouse and has icons, that's a rip too?

Vista doesn't impress me. Neither did the earlier Longhorn PDC releases. All of the interesting technology besides Avalon have disappeared. And pertaining security... all *nix OS are BIND exploit susceptible. Tracking cookies still work. And there are others... just less to worry about than Windows.

Well, not until the Intel x86 switch. Who knows what's going to happen then... might get popular enough to become a true target.

[powermac]

Well, just by looking at the video and a few screen shots. I still believe windows to be clumsy. In the video, he had to close down one of those pop up windows from the task bar. And the start-menu, all I ask on that is why? I believe the tide is turning on M$, simply copying Apple is not enough anymore.

[Lt Major Burns]

windows, graphically, has moved one step forward with decent blurring in the UI. we only currently have fade and scale effects fully implemented. i'm not saying they are absent, i'm saying they're not being used, and perhaps they should. i really like the concept of trasparent window borders - far less obtrusive, and puts the focus on the content.

however, i will continue to get people on PC's to get macs. they are a much better system from the ground up. i love stealing someones digital camera and plugging it into my mac. i love their reaction as they see i don't do anything, but iphoto opens, and the pictures are imported, sorted, organised and completley usable. without drivers, without having to open photoshop, without third-party crap like olympus camera software. it just... works!

itunes (i know windows has this now, but it's nowhere near as fast) - you put a CD in, it looks on the internet, gets the track names and starts importing it. it then organises it perfectly. it just... works.

windows has a far wider range of peripherals you can use with it.

Mac has a far higher rate of success though. selected things work on macs. nothing works on windows. not first time, anyway....

[gerbick]

Originally Posted by powermac

Well, just by looking at the video and a few screen shots. I still believe windows to be clumsy. In the video, he had to close down one of those pop up windows from the task bar. And the start-menu, all I ask on that is why? I believe the tide is turning on M$, simply copying Apple is not enough anymore.

the popup closed via the task bar originated in the task bar... looked like a Security advisory that's part of WinXP SP2 and Win2k3 Server SP1. Annoyingly closed with one mouse click.

The start menu was like that in WinXP and Win2k3 as well. Mine is using the classic look... small.

[powermac]

Everyone has a preference for how they like GUI. M$ has taken its hits for their GUI philosophy and design. This is not a window bash by any means. In general, my experience with any version of windows is the OS gets in the way of the work flow. Sure, those security reminders, and other pop up events are nice. When they become intrusive to my work flow, of course I get annoyed.
The start-menu, in my view, is clumsy. Sure one can drag icons to the desktop, or task bar on the bottom. Perhaps, like many people, I figured the new version was going to be radically different. Perhaps I got that idea from how much M$ hyped up longhorn, and viewing the beta, it appears some eye-candy features have been added. How to navigate the system and files remains the same. In short, I was looking for M$ to radically change that aspect of Longhorn. Even though I strictly use the Mac only.