Do Mac users support GW Bush?

[Ashka]

Originally Posted by g/re/p

Bush is an incompetent idiot - and the opinions of people from other countries about bush DO matter, because his actions effect more than just the people of the USA.

You will probably get some flames over that statement.

No flames from here ~

Bush is a dangerous idiot never mind incompetent.

[g/re/p]

I meant he would probabaly get flamed for saying this:

"As much as a I appreciate the help from people in other countries with my mac; I don't think their opinions matter on whether they support our President or not."



...and he should

[Mobius Rex]

Bush is a dangerous idiot

Well, of course! And I think that a very good case can be made that BUSH SUPPORTERS, as well, are DANGEROUS IDIOTS!
A valid question might be, "Are Bush supporters of lower intelligence than Bush opposers?".

[magilum]

Originally Posted by bbloke

[...]outside of the US there is a perception, whether rightly or wrongly, that dissent is seen as unpatriotic (almost treason) by many Americans in the current climate, and I think this can alarm outsiders.

It alarms me, too. Every news day there's a new emergency; a new reason why murmurs of dissent would immediately destroy this country. It wears thin when you realize that GW is paying off his campaign supporters with these wartime contracts -- or when you see he and his staff go through the effort to make a video presentation to laugh off the lack of WMDs located in Iraq (the immediate threat cited as reason to lead so many soldiers and civilians to their deaths).

There's an expression that says a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet. I wonder to what party the mugger belongs.

[reed]

Originally Posted by hawki18

Reed

Typical French superior to everyone else statement, next time France finds it self in troub in trouble don't call us like ww1 and 2

I'm from New York. And a patriot.Where do you see the superiority deal? Cause GWB and Dick Cheney wanted a war in Iraq based on lies and the Frenchies said "not with us?" I don't give a hoot about Chirac and politics in general but they were correct to be not lead into such a stupid adventure. They were there for the 1st Gulf War by the way.One that was politically correct.
They are heavily engaged in Afganhistan against the Talibans.... the seat of terrorism. In fact the Frenchies have been fighting terrorism long before 9/11 and the London Transport attacks. London use to be the European HQ for terrorists.And we didn't see the handwriting on the wall.
Don't mix apples with oranges.

[bbloke]

Well said, g/re/p... both times!

Originally Posted by ApeintheShell

As much as a I appreciate the help from people in other countries with my mac; I don't think their opinions matter on whether they support our President or not.

Whoa, that sounds rather arrogant. I can fully understand someone saying that, ultimately, it is up to the citizens of a country to choose their own leader, but saying other peoples' opinions absolutely do not matter is rather astonishing. I despair when people effectively put their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen to others; this is not the way the world becomes a better place.

Our leaders affect other countries too... particularly when they invade them! This is really not about whether or not people take issue with one particular branch of Christianity (it is not fair to equate Christianity to Protestant Fundamentalism). Not at all. This is about a range of issues which affect people worldwide, and people around the world have every right to hold views on issues which affect them!

Originally Posted by hawki18

Typical French superior to everyone else statement, next time France finds it self in troub in trouble don't call us like ww1 and 2

Hmmm, this too sounds very arrogant (ironically!). It also seems to imply a major lack of understanding of history...

[Rhisiart]

Tony Blair was only able to take Britain to war in Iraq by winning a vote in the British Parliament (with roughly 650 politicians voting).

However, most of Tony's political party (Labour), which hold a majority of parliamentary seats, were against the war and threatened to vote against Britain’s involvement. Furthermore, 3,000,000 Britons marched in London and other British cities, pleading with Blair not to invade Iraq.

Tony's own advisors said going to war was a very bad idea and the Attorney General thought that it would be illegal. Even GWB on the eve of the vote rang Blair to say that America would understand if Britain decided to pull out.

So what did Tony do with all this advice? On his own volition, at the eleventh hour, he approached as many Labour MPs as he could and told them that the government would collapse if it lost the vote and that they could lose their seats in Parliament. That scared the crap out of most of them, so they switched their vote to support Britain’s involvement in the invasion of Iraq.

They complained that Iraq was a dictatorship. Yet, it was a Blair dictatorship that took Britain to war!

[g/re/p]

Did Blair hold a gun to their heads or threaten them with bodily injury or incarceration?