Do Mac users support GW Bush?

[reed]

I agree. Religious kooks are everywhere. Unfortunately, the Religious Right in the US are the those that helped put GWB in office and to whom he plays lip service. He speaks to God you know. Also, remember John "prayer meetings" Ashcroft?
Someone once said: "'In God we trust.' All others pay cash.'"

[Mobius Rex]

Yes alot of american do not like coments form people outside the us when they take a poke at us or our President, somw time that includes me, and other times depending the comments I just tell myself they don't got a clue.

Uh, yeah right, some folks just "...don't got a clue".

[Rhisiart]

Originally Posted by Mikuro

...it's difficult to get a real idea of the American mindset, for both insiders and outsiders. America is a huge country. I live in New York, an overwhelmingly liberal state. A lot of what other countries see of America is as foreign to me as it is to them.

Honestly, I don't think this "American image" is really accurate in any part of America. The media hardly gives us fair representation. Most people on TV are childish fanatics (whichever side they happen to be on) — axe-grinders who are perfectly happy to abandon all rational thought and logic as long as it sounds good for a few seconds at a time.....

I think this is the most helpful post in this thread. As an example, outsiders frequently complain about the Bush administration's lack of response to the threat of global warming, yet some US states pursue progressive 'green' policies that would put a number of European countries to shame.

Likewise, not all Americans are 'blind faith' Christian fanatics (i.e. no understanding of the New Testament) and not all are fixated with corporate greed (which seems to go hand-in-hand with Christian fundamentalism).

As a Briton, I am very concerned with the Bush-Blair Axis. I suspect Iraq has more to do with Bush Snr and his cronies than poor old Dubya. I think Blair simply wants to go down in history as a 'Churchillian' statesman.

God Bless America (and I really do mean that) and God Help Us All.

[HateEternal]

I love the fact that this is an international board. You guys have some really interesting views and I enjoy reading them. It almost makes me think I belong somewhere else.

I could say so much more, but that is all.

[reed]

rhisiart....
GWB and Tony (the phoney?) is an interesting topic. What a couple. Tony got sucked into Iraq and boy he's no Churchill. Who invaded who? And for what reason? Democracy? Oil? Weapons of Mass Destruction? Terrorism? All of the above or none of the above? He's Labor. Shameful. But what can you do? This is how things have worked out. Now what?
An aside for the thread....
One thing is sure one has the right to his/her opinions concerning the USA and the way this administration is dealing with things (from wherever one comes from). We Americans do it all the time. In fact everybody does it. If I criticize Bush am I an anti-American? If I'm Jewish and for the de-colonisation of the occupied territorities am I anti-Semite. If I think Ben Laden and other fanatics are not true Muslims am I anti-Arab or true followers of the Koran? Or if I think Creationists can't see beyond their noses (and only read the passages in the Bible that interest them) am I anti-Christian, etc.. The answer, I think or hope is correct is... of course not.

[fryke]

Depends on which side you're on. :P

[reed]

Indeed. Vast program.

[CaptainQuark]

Originally Posted by reed

One thing is sure one has the right to his/her opinions concerning the USA and the way this administration is dealing with things (from wherever one comes from). We Americans do it all the time. In fact everybody does it.

…unless, of course, you are involved in research into climate change, in which case you aren't allowed to speak out on the issue without the Bush Administration's prior scrutiny and approval of your statements.

Originally Posted by reed

If I'm Jewish and for the de-colonisation of the occupied territorities am I anti-Semite.

That's got nothing to do with anti-semitism. If wishing that Israel would retreat to within its original, UN-mandated borders is anti-semitic, then I'm anti-semitic! But I know for a fact that I think no worse of a man, just because parts of his wedding tackle are shorter than mine!

Originally Posted by reed

If I think Ben Laden and other fanatics are not true Muslims am I anti-Arab or true followers of the Koran?

Osama bin Laden's actions and those of others of his kind are purely political. Having lived in Saudi Arabia, I know for sure that I have nothing to fear from Islam (which is the Arabic word for Peace). George W is as guilty as bin Laden of using religion to wage a political war!

Originally Posted by reed

Or if I think Creationists can't see beyond their noses (and only read the passages in the Bible that interest them) am I anti-Christian, etc.

However hard I try, I can find no redeeming qualities in this bunch of blinkered lunatics…