Boycott the Saudi's. dont buy their gas! <-----

[xaqintosh]

Originally posted by Decado
Oh, sorry... i missunderstood you. yes, i am too of the opinion that Hussein doesnt seem like the ideal ruler.

No problem

[mdnky]

Not to flame anyone, but this whole topic about impending war is getting old. You would think after a quick review of history, we would learn the leason or at least understand, of when it's time to quit bickering like children and smother a situation.

Had this been done in the late 30's we most likely wouldn't read about a thing called WWII or have anything to remember of Sept. 1st 1939.

Today the US is partly to blame, had had it been taken care of during the first Gulf conflict we wouldn't be here.


Speak softly and carry a big stick...

[themacko]

Originally posted by toast
Off-topic (anyway the topic is so stoopid?</flame>) : is this you, themacko ?

What do you mean, toast?

[xaqintosh]

<offtopic>maybe its the new avatar?</offtopic>

[Cat]

The thing is, the US doesn't have a history of violence toward other nations using atomic bombs or weapons of mass destruction unless it was defensive. Iraq has *relatively* recently invaded Kuwait, not to mention their country is a dictatorship, which in itself is bad enough IMO.

I can never remember, maybe Toast can help me out: were it the british or the americans who bombed Dresden, an internationally recognized red-cross city, right at the end of WWII? Also AFAIK the only two atom bombs ever used in war were dropped by the USA. Utterly destroying two cities full of civilians doesn't sound very much like a defensive measure, it's more like terrorism and intimidation. Unlike Machiavelli said, ends do not justify means. Democracy is not something you can enforce by a war. You'll only create resentment, fear and anger. In this case there is a higher authority to which an appeal can be made: the UN. Besides the american plans, there are others, like the German/France plan, which moreover is supported by Russia and China. If you want law and order, don't be the first one to disobey.

[toast]

Cat :

The American Flying Fortresses called B17 (codename: Marauder) bombed Dresden February 14th 1945 using 13.000 tons of phospore bombs, which are incendiary bombs. They were being escorted by Mustang airplanes in their nightly task.

Source: book by Anthony Kemp.

[toast]

And yes, it's your new avatar macko: is that you ?

[Cat]

Thank you Toast.