Oil crisis

[Rhisiart]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloConCaca

I say that human-caused global warming and environmental impact is a bunch of hogwash!

Global warming, food shortages, desertization, crop failures, credit crisis etc. are all symptoms of mismanagement. Most will be easily absorbed by the planet. Human folly will be spat out like a dead flea.

[ElDiabloConCaca]

Hehe... agreed. People say that it's "bad," but "bad" is relative -- bad for humans? Yes! Bad for cockroaches? Nope! They'll thrive!

What's seemingly "bad" for one species may in fact be great for another. We're not really concerned about the "health" of the planet -- we're concerned about earth's viability in sustaining human life... as if the earth would just be fsck'ed without us or something.

If humans are so arrogant to believe that they can even scratch the surface of the earth, well, that's just some kind of Napoleon complex. The earth will chew us up and spit us out, and in 100,000 years (a nanosecond in the grand scheme of things), the earth will repair itself and be on its merry way. Without the burden of us. Happy cockroaches.

[Qion]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloConCaca

If humans are so arrogant to believe that they can even scratch the surface of the earth, well, that's just some kind of Napoleon complex. The earth will chew us up and spit us out, and in 100,000 years (a nanosecond in the grand scheme of things), the earth will repair itself and be on its merry way. Without the burden of us. Happy cockroaches.

This is the blatantly obvious truth of everything that nobody wants to admit, and the people who do usually get labeled nihilist or other such projective bull.

If we want to play god, we better start getting good at it.

[ElDiabloConCaca]

It's true, but then again, I am human, and want humankind to be safe in our environment.

But then again humans do have a way of thinking that we are somehow "removed" from the rest of the beasts that are considered "nature." It's weird... when a fox gets rabies and goes nuts and eats their offspring, we call it "nature" and do not interfere. Neither do other foxes. But when a human goes nuts and starts wildfires in California, we call them "insane" and "deranged" and "unnatural" and something must be wrong and they must be stopped.

What a strange bunch of beings we are. So... remind me again... when did humans become not a part of the natural progression of the earth?

Thinking of other things, that brings me to extinction. For millennia, different species have come into being, and others have gone extinct... it's the "natural" way of things. Case in point: dinosaurs and the dodo bird. But all of a sudden, humans learn to read and write and build fires, and all of a sudden, all the beasts currently on the planet needn't change anymore -- we need to stop the "natural" extinction of animals, because somehow, even though in the past, changes such as these were all ok, but now we feel the need to "freeze" nature in its current state. Stop the whales from dying -- why? They're dying because the current state of the earth is no longer habitable for them. Stop the extinction of bees -- why? Something's happening, whether human-caused or not, and they're dying. But, of course, humans are not a part of the natural progression of the earth, and since we caused the extinctions, somehow that's "unnatural."

Hogwash, I say! HOGWASH!

[Rhisiart]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloConCaca

Hogwash, I say! HOGWASH!

Right. The challenge is on. It is 18.28 GMT on the 26th June 2006.

How long ElDiabloConCaca, before you can legitimately get to use the word 'Hogwash' in MacOSX.com Word Association?

The clock is ticking.......

[ElDiabloConCaca]

Ooh, that was an unexpected challenge... BUT I ACCEPT! Game on!

[reed]

There IS oil (hard crude/soft crude) in many regions of the globe, US/Canada/Arctic, etc. that are only waiting to be tapped. The deal is.... NOT to tap them if possible (for X reasons) and work very, very hard to break this cycle and START to move away from oil. Period. A pipe dream for the moment because we are stuck. A pipe what? What a line! Sorry.
But we all know this.

[Viro]

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