badmouthing our president

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Well, as a Canadian, and one who has bashed Bush no less, I would like to offer my apologies.

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[evildan]

Originally posted by habilis
...Even our ex presidents have sunk to all new lows by bashing the president in other countries abroad that seek to dissolve the US, and empower the EU. That's the same as bashing your wife to your friends. It's so trashy. Janine, I can respect because she at least has the backbone to go on TV and put herself up for criticism.

I've read a lot of strange and one-sided ignorant things on the net, but this is one takes the cake.

It is not only our right to "bash" the president, it's our responsibility. Criticism, much like the criticism I'm giving you habilis, is often mistakenly taken as disrespect, when in fact it's not. It's simply an opposite opinion, stated in public.

We empower the president of the United States. He/She is a reflection of us, not the other way around. If we don't agree with what the president is doing, guess what, we have a duty, as Americans, to speak out. Period.

Badmouthing our president is cool these days I guess. Has anyone in the anti-war crowd found the time to bash Saddam? I submit to you that they haven't.

Well here's one thing you're right about. Anti-War people probably have not taken the time from their anti-war protests to insult a man who is second only to Hitler in world popularity.

But don't worry, I'm sure the "anti-war" people will get on that, because that's the most important issue facing America right now, right?

"Bashing" leaders from another country serves no political purpose whatsoever. If I'm "Pro-Bush" is it my civil duty to make fun out of Saddam? How is breeding that kind of hate "better" then what Saddam is doing?

The armchair anti-war people need to know who they're really in bed with, and the hidden truth about what their actions cause.

The word "armchair" implies that they are not doing anything... when in fact they are. In case you haven't noticed, countries across the world, are in opposition to the war. An majority of your fellow American citizens are against going to war.

America is a minority in the world for the first time since World War II. (and we were then because we were the only country against the war).

And please be so kind as to tell me the "hidden truth my actions are causing." You speak as though you know something the rest of the world doesn't. If so, I submit the request of your knowhow for the betterment of mankind.

Lastly, a rare support for celebrities...
You know the last time I checked the "Dixie Chicks" were all American citizens, subject to serving the country, just as the ex-presidents already have. Considering that fact alone, gives them every right and privilege you and I have. If they want to speak out for or against the war, they have every right to do so. I am not obligated to listen to them, nor you me.

[dixonbm]

Originally posted by Ugg
I hope you are truly friends with Toast. It was the French who were responsible for the American liberation from the British. It shames me to see how poorly we are treating such a staunch ally. Now more than ever we need "un voix de raison".

Those Frenchmen who helped America defeat the British in the revolutionary war helped America for the same reason America aided Vietnam in the Vietnam War. France didn't care about America other than the fact American Independence would splinter British colonial power in America since France had lost the French and Indian War.

Also let us not forget the government in France at the time was an absolute monarchy. France today is quite different having been through numerous changes in government since the time of American Independence.

Countries become allies only when it is in their best interest to be allies. Countries stand for certain principles and ideas because it is in their best interest. A country does what it must to maintain and/or increase its power and influence.

Let us not fool ourselves with misconceptions that our governments/countries stand for anything other than themselves and perhaps the people they represent/control.

[toast]

France today is quite different having been through numerous changes in government since the time of American Independence.

You certainly meant 'numerous changes in regime', am I right ?

[marz]

"Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarrelled with him?"
- Blaise Pascal

[fryke]

About badmouthing the president of the United States of America... We're not doing it, actually. He's doing it. Just turn on the TV and listen to him. "Good", "Evil". The day the twin towers fell, he said he was going to war against terrorism. There wasn't any reflection on the sources for the attack. There wasn't any sign of 'keeping options open'. This man was going to war. He has made that clear and he told us many times that he WANTED it to be clear.

The people you say are badmouthing him are only seeing what he's saying ever since: He's a dangerous man and he's going to be in a war until either he's dead or another person is the president of the USA.

So. Yes. There's gonna be a war. Yes, war is a bad thing. Yes, the US are preparing to bring war to many places all over the world.

Let that go through your head one more time: The US are bringing war to places all over the world.

Now think again how it comes that people are 'badmouthing our president'. He's the president of one country, albeit a big one. The world is not behind Mr. Bush on everything.

The Bush administration is going too far. And either way, they'll have to learn it.

[binaryDigit]

Originally posted by evildan

Originally posted by habilis
...Even our ex presidents have sunk to all new lows by bashing the president in other countries abroad that seek to dissolve the US, and empower the EU...

I've read a lot of strange and one-sided ignorant things on the net, but this is one takes the cake.

It is not only our right to "bash" the president, it's our responsibility...

I think his point was that former US presidents generally don't bash the current US president, it's a courtesy thing. He was sorta agreeing with you by saying that at least the Dixie Chick had some nads.

BTW, why is what the Dixie Chick said "her right and responsibility", but what habilis said "ignorant". He's entitled to his opinion to right?

[toast]

Source: Idle Worm

PS: This is humour about Bush being badmouthed, that's why I post it.