badmouthing our president

[Satcomer]

Originally posted by Ugg
Toast, FOX and CNN are very right leaning.

I'll agree that Fox does lean politically right. However, CNN is right leaning? Sorry to disagree but where do you get this information? IMHO a lot of political minding people in the USA thinks that CNN leans to the left spectrum of USA politics.

[habilis]

[quote]Originally posted by Ugg
Toast, FOX and CNN are very right leaning. FOX is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

CNN is totally liberal. I can't believe I just heard that statement. You're right about Fox though. And it's about time there's a media venue that's not liberally biased. It's the only one out there that gives you the whole truth. that's also why it's now #1 and CNN is in the doghouse. Fox had the backbone to call homicide bombers what they really are - killers and murderers. They're not afraid of offending terrorist killers - that's refreshing. And the anchors have the backbone to wear an American flag lapel pin. Being politically correct is really gettin old, the attempted guilt trips are gettin old, the watered down left-winged non-offensive mundane news media is gettin old, and it's popularity is waning. There's an ebb and flow to these things. The country(America) is leaning more to the right at the moment.

And Ugg, I listen to NPR every day to get that side of the story and it doesn't brainwash me, so you shouldn't be afraid of toast watching FOX.

Anyway, I'm off to go polish my gun rack in the back of my pickup and pin up that poster of a M.O.A.B. in my bedroom. I should also get around to putting up my new bumper sticker on the back of my chrome bumber that reads "Kick Their As* and Take The Gas!"

[edX]

sounds like CNN must be pretty middle of the road if both sides think they are for the other.

[Ugg]

[quote]Originally posted by habilis

Originally posted by Ugg
Toast, FOX and CNN are very right leaning. FOX is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

CNN is totally liberal. I can't believe I just heard that statement. You're right about Fox though. And it's about time there's a media venue that's not liberally biased.
And Ugg, I listen to NPR every day to get that side of the story and it doesn't brainwash me, so you shouldn't be afraid of toast watching FOX.

Hmmmm, I haven't actually watched TV for a few years now but when I did I could have sworn CNN was on the conservative side. Oooops

One thing I am not afraid of is Toast turning into a dyed in the wool Bush-supporting, anti-French, conservative Republican just because he watched FOX!!!!! Toast seems to be able to make up his own mind.

To be honest with you, other than the Press Democrat I don't read any US papers, nor do I listen to the US news. I like, half of all the Guardian's readers ( www.guardian.co.uk ) am from the US. It is impossible to get unbiased news from an american news organization, whether they are independent or corporately owned. Although the corporately owned papers and radio stations seem to offer little other than regurgitated white house press releases and the rantings of the extreme right wing. I am being very facetious but my point is that we have lost all perspective and there is no objectivity.

When did Congress give the Prez permission to fight a war in Iraq?

What is this war about?

How many Americans can respond to this post in a reasonable manner?

Am I anti-American just because I disagree with the Prez?

[Ugg]

Originally posted by Habilis
"Fox had the backbone to call homicide bombers what they really are - killers and murderers. They're not afraid of offending terrorist killers - that's refreshing."

Did I miss something? Are you claiming the so called liberal press considered them to be overprivileged youth who were brain washed by their extremist religious upbringing in countries where oil and the privilege of birthright means more than anything else? Hmmmmmm........

I don't think that anyone is afraid of offending terrorist killers. I follow the news pretty closely but I don't remember this claim of yours.

BTW, there is no such thing as a liberal press in the US anymore, there are only liberal leaning reporters who are asked to tone down their stories for fear of offending the medium's advertisers.

[habilis]

Ugg, sorry I was a little vague on that. Let me elaborate on my point;

CNN calles them Suicide Bombers, glorifying their cause and taking justice and attention away from the victim, as if there was no victim, it was just a suicide. Fox calls them Homicide Bombers, calling them the killers and murderers they really are.

It's no accident that Israel doen't carry CNN anymore and there's been many boycotts on that network there. The Israelis are totally offended by CNN.

[edX]

maybe if the US would start paying more attention to the world and less to israel, we would all be in better shape. i find it hard to support a country in which an american girl was killed yesterday for standing in the way of the destruction of people's homes. israel is no less and no more to blame for the troubles in that part of the world than their neighbors. it's long since time we stopped played protector and started making them face the consequences of their actions as we do others in the region. peace will nver come so long as any of them are allowed to terrorize the others.

[habilis]

The craziest things can happen to you if you crawl underneath a bulldozer. But seriosly, I heard it reported that the driver didn't see or hear her. And if he had, we don't negotiate with terrorists, even if you are American.

I bet there's a lot of Human Shields out there tonight getting second thoughts.