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Old March 17th, 2003, 10:50 PM
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so now standing in the way of destruction is terrorism? i suppose all the peace protests were acts of terrorism as well by that reasoning. next my disagreeing with Bush will be seen as terrorism. is there anything short of killing for america that isn't to be considered terrorism?
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Old March 17th, 2003, 10:51 PM
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The craziest things can happen to you if you crawl underneath a bulldozer. But seriosly, I heard it reported that the driver didn't see or hear her. And if he had, we don't negotiate with terrorists, even if you are American.
She was waring a brightly colored top. She was not just run over, they backed up over her too.

Listen to yourself. You're calling her a terrorist? Have you lost all sense of reality. Are you truly that blinded by anger and hatred?

She never did anything to you and you have insulted her memory. I guess your ideas of what is right and wrong, good and evil, moral and immoral are warped by your blind following of one ideological position. This is what leads to fascism.

Pretend that was your daughter... she was someone's daughter to be sure. Would you want someone saying such things about her.
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Old March 17th, 2003, 10:59 PM
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IMHO a lot of political minding people in the USA thinks that CNN leans to the left spectrum of USA politics.

I don't know what CNN was like 5 years ago but they are sure as hell not leaning to the left at the moment. They might be more subtle than FOX and the like but just try to read between the lines for a moment and you'll figure it out. Why is it that I either get a headache or totally p***ed off after watching CNN for more than 15 minutes?
It's big business, how can it be impartial?


And if he had, we don't negotiate with terrorists, even if you are American.

Before you say anything like that against one of your fellow Americans I suggest you do some reading on pre-WW2 Europe, notably the rise of fascism. You might rethink such statements after that.
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Open question: Have the hardline people in this country reached a point where they have such hatred for the views of those that don't agree with them that they feel that those other people's lives are now not of any value?

Follow up question: How is this any different from the people of Germany in the 1930's that felt that the people they didn't like got what they had coming to them?

When differences in opinion make any group not value human life, that is when the line between right and wrong, good and evil, moral and immoral has been crossed. From what I just saw in this thread, has a group of my fellow citizens crossed over. Do you really know which side you are on?
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Old March 17th, 2003, 11:08 PM
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Here's another question to all Americans participating in this discussion:
How much non-American history is actually taught in American schools?
Disclaimer: This is a serious question, not a flame or insult!
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Wow racer, I'm impressed at how rightous you are. And if I strapped myself to the grounds where a peace rally was to be staged, and I was trampled to death, I'm sure you would defend my honor right?

No, you would laugh at how much of an idiot I was! Anybody that crawls under a bulldozer to save a freekin house has got their wires crossed.

Your logic then would indicate that you think Homicide bombers need to be defended, and their honors upheld, and their cause glorified right?
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How much non-American history is actually taught in American schools?
As I recall (and I'm really bad with dates) most things before... oh, say 1776 were non-American.

The real question is how much non-North American/European history is taught... not very much would be the correct answer.
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Wow racer, I'm impressed at how rightous you are. And if I strapped myself to the grounds where a peace rally was to be staged, and I was trampled to death, I'm sure you would defend my honor right?
Actually I would. I have served this country and sworn an oath to protect it's citizens and the laws that govern it. I may not work in that capacity any more, but the oath means as much to me today as it did then.

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No, you would laugh at how much of an idiot I was!
Beyond the bulldozer issue, why do you think I would act in such a manner?

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Your logic then would indicate that you think Homicide bombers need to be defended, and their honors upheld, and their cause glorified right?
That isn't my logic, but I guess we would have to assume that as you are the one making it up, that it must be yours. I have to say that you are turning out to be one scary individual.
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