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Old March 20th, 2003, 06:01 PM
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Thought the article was funny... or rather, it was funny cuz apple had noticed it and showed it to us.
It's good to see they have some distance.
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Yep. Love that article. I also love Apple for presenting Al Gore as member of the board of directors a few hours after Bush started the war. Quite a nice statement, actually.
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Old March 20th, 2003, 06:50 PM
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RacerX, you are so wrong about so many things I don't know where to start. But since this is a forum on OS X, I leave the debate to a private one if you care to continue...
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Old March 20th, 2003, 07:00 PM
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RacerX, you are so wrong about so many things I don't know where to start. But since this is a forum on OS X, I leave the debate to a private one if you care to continue...
...says the person who talks about US economy while thousands of iraqi civilians are going to be killed by the war...

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Old March 20th, 2003, 07:25 PM
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Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been murdered over the last 24 years by their leader.

I love how you libs justify getting involved in Somalia, Kosovo, etc, and completely bypass Saddams murderous ways...

Funny, when Clinton lobbed 450 tomahawk missles in 1998 at Iraq, none of you batted an eyelash. And what did that achieve? Nothing.

We're going to liberate a country from a murderous tyrant. You really want to get on the side against such an action? Be my guest.
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Read the parts of your post I left out once more and try to find the facts

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We're going to liberate a country from a murderous tyrant. You really want to get on the side against such an action? Be my guest.
Ookay. So how did it just become so extremely important to free the people of Iraq from Saddam?
Saddam gassed 60000 kurds in the Gulf war. Bush killed how many when he bombed Afghanistan?
Yes, Saddam is a murderous tyrant. What is Bush? Clinton?

Do you have any idea how much 900 billion US$ is? 14 Norwegian State year budgets. USA could buy the whole of Iraq. Saddams own army could be bought to capture him, send him to Haag and leave the country with a big smile.

Where's the logic? Oil? Economy?
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Old March 20th, 2003, 08:43 PM
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The best estimates of innocent Afghani's killed in Operation Anaconda are between 1000/3000. While any loss of life is regrettable, that country did harbor the terrorists responsible for many more deaths than that (add up WTC 93, both Embassies bombed, USS Cole WTC 2001, etc).


The US has become quite adept at waging a surgical war. War sucks, that's a given. But it is necessary from time to time.

Why would I care how much 900billion is in Norwegian terms? How is that relevant to anything? If it were possible to pay an Iraqi to kill/capture Saddam, don't you think the US would have tried it? We've got a $25 million dollar price on bin Ladens head, and look what that's achieved. Dozens of countries urged him to go in to exile, and even promised he would be protected from prosecution. No dice.

If you are even trying to equate two presidents of the US with Saddam then I guess there's little point getting through to you.

The logic is this. There's a hole in the ground in lower Manhattan where the lives of almost 3000 people ended on Sept. 11. We no longer live in a world where we can assume terrorists can't strike us here at home. While there may not be a direct link to Saddam and Al Qaeda, there is a strong link to Saddam and other terrorists. Knowing what we know about him, it's only a matter of time before he is involved in, either directly/or indirectly, a terrorist attack on the US. Couple this with his violations of the 1991 cease fire terms, his continued violation of over 15 UN Resolutions, and his violation of UN Resolution 1441, and you have a much stronger case for this war than just about any other war fought in the last 20 years.

You know, I think it basically comes down to there being two kinds of people these days.

Type A people were changed by Sept. 11 forever. They refuse to sit back and wait for another attack, instead identifying the largest threats and putting in plans of action to remove those threats.

Type B people believe the world is the same place now as it was before Sept. 11. They believe we shouldn't do anything to provoke another attack (like we did anything to provoke the first one). They believe we can't act on a threat until we are hit again. The smoking gun they are waiting for, unfortunately, will come in the form of a smoldering city.

But I love your logic there-

"Yes, Saddam is a murderous tyrant. But he only kills his own people. It's none of our business".

I imagine that's about the same argument Neville Chamberlin gave in the late 30's regarding Germany...

Back to Gore though (which is what this post was about right?)... Can anybody here give me 3 useful qualities he can bring to the board?
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1. Gore was very instrumental in encouraging the development of the internet in the US.

2. He has widespread name recognition outside the US and in order to maintain its longterm viability Apple needs to expand its foreign sales.

3. He is a very good diplomat, something that every American company that sells their goods abroad will need in the aftermath of war in Iraq.
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