September 11

[Ripcord]

Why? He's right...

[fryke]

serpicolugnut: it's just like that. there are other things happening out there in the world. 11th of september, as was pointed out, is also an important date for chile. it's also the date of the first beatles recording. it's the date when the USA entered Liechtenstein. It's the date when the Germans entered Rome.

I didn't say what I said up there because of anti-americanism. I'm not against the USA. I'm for peace. And on a day that you remember the victims of that September-11th attack, I also (also, not exclusively!) remember the victims of the two wars that came afterwards. I think you should respect that, too.

[serpicolugnut]

I think you should respect that, too.

I have oodles of existential respect to go around for all walks of life, all cultures, etc.

Yes, Sept. 11 means different things to different cultures. But come on. Sept. 11 will forever be the day America was attacked. OK, maybe not forever, but for a very very very long time. There may be other significant events that happened outside the US on Sept. 11, but in the realm of world news, they are page 2 stories from here on out.

For example: for the longest time, Dec. 7 was seen in the US as the date of the first state (Delaware) being ratified by all 30 delegates, making Delaware the first state of the USA. (1787)...

150 years later, some jinghoistic Japanese decide to launch a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, and Dec. 7 is forever known as "a day which will live in infamy".

Anyway, I respect your push for peace. I actually admire it. We just believe in different roads to get there.

You clearly think the Afghanis and Iraqis were better off under the Taliban and Saddam.

I believe that the hardship our people and those cultures endured in having the US remove those regimes will be far better for them and the rest of the world in the long run.

Besides, I'd rather the gaggle of terrorists wanting to attack America attempt to stage attacks on US troops in Iraq than try to stage attacks on civilians in NYC.

[Dusky]

The second anniversary of the day that truly changed the world is here.

And while less than fifteen people gathered around a monument erected at my local park (Southern California) in remembrance of the victims of September 11, my 20+ buddies and I played soccer like we do every Thursday. Others walked around the park, and many jogged. A day like any other. It changed the world, you say?

Each human being must mourn his/her own friends and relatives. Those who choose to mourn beyond that boundary, should mourn all deaths equally, not only the deaths of those who once shared his/her same ideals/nationality.

[Arden]

I must say, despite the nature of the tragedy, 9/11 has affected my life very little. I feel for those affected, but I see little difference in my life.

Interesting story: 2 years ago today, after the towers fell, my school received a bomb threat and we all went home. It was one of those weird coincidences. So I went home and got on the computer, brought the mini TV in, and started monitoring the news.

[Fahrvergnuugen]

someone once told me that you should say amen when you agree with something. being agnostic I didn't realize this...

amen.

[Cat]

It's not the dead that care for mourning, it's the living.

11 September 3000 humans died in a terrorist attack. More than 10.000 died in the directly ensuing wars. This summer in France 3000+ people died of the excessive heat, 4000+ in Italy.

Think very long and hard about why you remember certain things and not others.

[Arden]

I've seen BFC. I thought it was well done.

I want to see the Honest Reporting movie Relentless. It's about the media bias against the state of Israel, and it's supposed to be very powerful.