Comedy Circuit Star Sarah Palin to pitch for next Presidency.

[rubaiyat]

Is this more of the confused thinking I was talking about?

Proof? What proof of what?

What "taking my Jewish friends through the mud"? *

What horrors are you talking about?

Don't expect me to fall for the "I'm a vet", so-I-must-be-right jingoism. I am outside the "revival tent certainties" of Republicanism, remember?

* btw You are aware that Mussolini had some very faithful Jewish fascist supporters, whom he ultimately betrayed? Somehow I doubt you have much knowledge of history or politics.

[Satcomer]

Originally Posted by rubaiyat

What horrors are you talking about?

Don't expect me to fall for the "I'm a vet", so-I-must-be-right jingoism. I am outside the "revival tent certainties" of Republicanism, remember?

When you have someone shoot at you and have a battle buddy drop right next to you when his brain matter spatters all over your face changed my perspective that I no longer have tolerance of people generalizing other people.

This is all I am going to say about this and I urge you to befriend a Jewish person to get a better understanding. This discussion has ended because it just seems you want to argue and are blind to your own prejudice.

[rubaiyat]

I do not need to go and "befriend a Jewish person" I have done that many years ago. You seem to imply that they especially need befriending, to the exclusion of all others.

As to deaths in battle, the tragedy is not only with you and your buddy. A far higher price is being paid by many civilians who had no choice in this and suffered at the hands of a series of very ignorant and self centred leaders in the States who proceeded to astounding and incomprehensibly incompetent actions on the basis of massive lies.

They and their friends have gained handsomely from the immense billions poured into Iraq, in particular, which then vanished.

This personal enrichment along with other non-military self-advancement has played a major role in bringing the USA, and the world along with it, to its financial knees. All because the USA is stingy with humanitarian aid, but free with military expenditure.

The irony being you have ruined yourself in your indifferent ruination of others. Don't give me the chin music that the USA did this for the Iraqis or anyone else. All we heard about was America, America, America with only a brushing reference to anyone else when it got even embarassing to the clowns previously in charge.

It is not like the Republican party hasn't done this all before, each time with the Democrats coming in after to clean up the mess and corruption. Not so successfully on the last as it has become endemic to the system.

Your obsessive solely xenocentric viewpoint is what is sadly true of most of your "patriotic fellow Americans" and has damaged America's reputation and economy so badly it will take a long time before anyone really trusts the USA government or population. By then China will be the dominant power and that is scary!

[Rhisiart]

I fell in love with a Jewish lass 15 years ago (before I got married). It didn't work out because I couldn't commit to the Jewish faith. I think I can justify that (in that I don't want to be a Catholic either or nay other faith for that matter). However, I have never got my head around the fact that some people despise the Jews, either overtly or covertly. What am I missing?

[rubaiyat]

It seems to be human nature to attack anyone who doesn't conform to "social norms" and Jews have been steadfast in maintaining their beliefs in the face of enormous persecution.

There is a notion that if we let you be an exception we will have to let everyone follow their own beliefs then where would we be? Everyone thinking for themselves? Oh the horror!

Still it cuts both ways Rhisiart that she or her family could not tolerate you maintaining your own beliefs in the marriage. A friend of mine is married to a Jewish girl, with what I would call quite superstitious Jewish beliefs, but they seem perfectly happy.

I was aware of how much pressure can come from the spouse's family when I married across racial boundaries. But in the end they forgive you! Not necessarily the daughter though for having "let them down"! Racism is always something white people do!

[Greg_Reez]

Gotta love macosx.com's forums... this is why I come back day after day after day. Some discussions here are more in depth than college classrooms and even more eclectic than a smoke-filled college dorm room.

I also just wanted to add that Sarah Palin is oh so hot.

[rubaiyat]

Have to agree. Not as strong a recommendation for high office as that you can see an uninhabited Russian island from a remote Alaskan fishing village, if you stand on your kitchen table.

We had a local extremely rascist politician who had a good run based on the the fact, I suspect, that a lot of older men thought she was hot. And their wives didn't seem to mind as they blindly shared her views and if she peeked their interest, that was to the good.

[reed]

Show me one ex-VP candidate (who lost) become number 1? A lot of noise for nothing. Turn the page guys.