Comparing Dubya to Steve Jobs? Can you say blasphemy?

[potterhead4]

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/inte...343619,00.html

The article calls Bush the "Steve Jobs of the political world." It's great that Steve has achieved so much popularity, but comparing him to Bush? No matter your political stance, you gotta agree that Jobs is way cooler than Bush...there are other points on this, but I have to go. Anyhow, thought it would be an interesting discussion.

[ElDiabloConCaca]

Not to mention that Jobs holds dinners for the likes of Clinton, Al Gore is on the board of directors for Apple, and he's a diehard Democrat... hehe...

But, then again, the citizens of the United States usually overlook the fact that our two prominent political parties are actually really close to each other "on the spectrum" compared with the rest of the world's political parties.

[whitesaint]

Yea I agree with you. I think Dubya makes alot of really wrong and bad decisions and then comes off saying he's all religous and doing it for god. I don't know of any religous people that start large wars with eternally messed up countries and then say their working with god. Blasphemy!

Most people I know however never heard of Steve Jobs, but I think Steve Jobs is like the opposite of Bush. Instead of making a whole lot of bad desicions Steve Jobs makes all the right decisions, and instead of being a major dork like Bush, Steve Jobs is like the coolest cat ever.

Bush seems to say all the wrong things, Steve says all the right things... I dunno maybe it's a bad analogy. But yea Dubya is like nothing compared to Steve Jobs, at least Steve Jobs tripped on acid and that will make anyone a much broader guy. I think that's partly why Steve Jobs is so smart, cuz of the acid.

dayum I would love to trip with Steve Jobs

[diablojota]

Yea I agree with you. I think Dubya makes alot of really wrong and bad decisions and then comes off saying he's all religous and doing it for god. I don't know of any religous people that start large wars with eternally messed up countries and then say their working with god. Blasphemy!

Most people I know however never heard of Steve Jobs, but I think Steve Jobs is like the opposite of Bush. Instead of making a whole lot of bad desicions Steve Jobs makes all the right decisions, and instead of being a major dork like Bush, Steve Jobs is like the coolest cat ever.

Bush seems to say all the wrong things, Steve says all the right things... I dunno maybe it's a bad analogy. But yea Dubya is like nothing compared to Steve Jobs, at least Steve Jobs tripped on acid and that will make anyone a much broader guy. I think that's partly why Steve Jobs is so smart, cuz of the acid.

dayum I would love to trip with Steve Jobs

Um... Bush most likely has tripped as well. He has most likely smoked weed and snorted some coke in his day. So that is not quite accurate. He's a born again christian.

And there are sects of people who declare Jihad on other countries and religious groups and say it is in the name of Allah. People blow up abortion clinics in the name of God. No it's not a country taking out another nation, but it is the same thing on a smaller scale.

I am not defending Bush. No need to. However, I am just pointing out your misconceptions.

[whitesaint]

Well personally I don't like Bush at all, but I love Steve Jobs. Is there any proof that Bush tripped on acid? or coke?

Well the thing about the Islamic people blowing up crap all the time and murdering people,and then saying their doing it for god, is we all know that they are insane.

But I see that Bush is kinda doin somewhat the same thing now that I look at it in ur point of view.

The scary thing is many Americans may think that Bush is in his right mind, while a few people like me think he's crazy. And then all of us American's think the extremists blowing crap up are completely insane and out of thier mind, And then prolly the Iraqi's and Muslims in the middle east think that Al Qaeda and the Islamist extremists are doing the right thing and that Bush is really crazy and America is really evil!

Damn the terrorists say they're doing it for god. Bush says he's doing it for god. I guess our greatest enemies our ourselves and we need to just stop interferring with what other countries do.

[macgeek]

Yea I agree with you. I think Dubya makes alot of really wrong and bad decisions and then comes off saying he's all religous and doing it for god. I don't know of any religous people that start large wars with eternally messed up countries and then say their working with god. Blasphemy!

Uh, more wars have been fought in the name of God than for any other cause. And the reason those countries are eternally messed up because of the wars they've fought in the name of God and because of how tightly God is tied to Government.

As for Bush, you're seriously oversimplifying. Plus, you're ignoring the fact that the majority of the country agrees with him. Now, that sucks. I don't agree with him. I'm completely anti-religion - I hate it, mostly for the reasons I've listed. But, most of the country agrees with him on social issues like Gay Marriage and Stem Cell Research. It's a shame, but it's a fact.

As for war, well, the war was brought to us, not the other way around. Remember that. And if you have your intelligence agency, Britian's intelligence agency, and the "President" of Russia all telling you that Iraq has WMDs (which btw they have used in the past and not accounted for), you don't screw around. You don't screw around with millions of lives at stake and listen to a group of talkers (i.e. France, Germany, U.N. as a whole) who you know are in league with the very administration who is threatening you. The fact is, Iraq had WMDs, they hid them or worse sold them, they couldn't account for them and now neither can we. We just don't know why. Worst case scenario.. they were sold to terrorists. Maybe not Al Queda, but some group. Personally, I think Saddam was making it seem like he had WMD's when he actually didn't so that neighboring countries wouldn't attack, but that's another story.

Okay, feel free to comment or not. Sorry to go on such a tirade. I just get worked up about these things...

[macgeek]

Well personally I don't like Bush at all, but I love Steve Jobs. Is there any proof that Bush tripped on acid? or coke?

Well the thing about the Islamic people blowing up crap all the time and murdering people,and then saying their doing it for god, is we all know that they are insane.

But I see that Bush is kinda doin somewhat the same thing now that I look at it in ur point of view.

The scary thing is many Americans may think that Bush is in his right mind, while a few people like me think he's crazy. And then all of us American's think the extremists blowing crap up are completely insane and out of thier mind, And then prolly the Iraqi's and Muslims in the middle east think that Al Qaeda and the Islamist extremists are doing the right thing and that Bush is really crazy and America is really evil!

Damn the terrorists say they're doing it for god. Bush says he's doing it for god. I guess our greatest enemies our ourselves and we need to just stop interferring with what other countries do.

PS. Bush says he's doing it in the name of freedom and security, not in the name of God. He actually doesn't talk much about God in his speeches, if you read the transcripts or really pay attention. Bush isn't crazy.. that's the role he's playing. Think about it, if he seemed completely docile (like for example, John Kerry), he wouldn't be able to get anything done. He needs to seem like a little bit of a cowboy for the terrorists to fear him... they don't know what to expect from him, and that's a good thing for us. Then you have Condi Rice or in the past Colin Powell going in to the other nations and smoothing things over behind the scenes. I have a lot of family in government.. believe me this is what's happening. It isn't the first time and it won't be the last. The terrorists wanted Bush out of office, and that's reason enough for me to want to keep him in.

[Cat]

It may sound strange, but I'd rather see Bush being called the Steve Jobs of politics, than seeing Steve Jobs being called the Bush of the computer industry ...